Re: Agar out : Tue Mar 15, 2022 11:36 am  

Sir Gregory Parsloe wrote:

I agree with some of this but Smith went to HKR when they were in a right state and in part worked with a job lot of young players signed from Bradford. I think he is still renting a house in Hull, a move to Leeds would let him move home to near Huddersfield and if these young players are as as good as some think, (i’m Not convinced yet) it would seem a good fit. I don’t think fans would expect quick miracles but his teams play exciting football and I’m bored to death watching this.

I reckon any wire fan would say they played most exciting stuff they have ever watched under smith, I would say that about his 4 years at Leeds.

If he comes I hope he can smuggle Mikey Lewis out with him.

Re: Agar out : Tue Mar 15, 2022 12:28 pm  

We should remember that Smith took over a side with bags of potential, which isn't as clear now. He also spent a whole off-season with the squad doing skill sessions. He also wouldn't be likely to find an Ali Lauti'iti mid-season. Doesn't mean he wouldn't end up turning things round if he came back, but its a very different challenge coming into a team that's shot with ageing players and hacks all over the place and probably no space under the cap in the short term.

Re: Agar out : Tue Mar 15, 2022 1:42 pm  

Once were Loiners wrote:

We should remember that Smith took over a side with bags of potential, which isn't as clear now. He also spent a whole off-season with the squad doing skill sessions. He also wouldn't be likely to find an Ali Lauti'iti mid-season. Doesn't mean he wouldn't end up turning things round if he came back, but its a very different challenge coming into a team that's shot with ageing players and hacks all over the place and probably no space under the cap in the short term.

Very fair points but I don’t expect us to only lose 2/28 SL rounds like we did in his first season in 2004.
As for an off season of adding skills, I could think of worse things to happen in winter 2022/23

Re: Agar out : Tue Mar 15, 2022 2:35 pm  

If Agar doesn't want to be flogging a dead horse at this point in his life would Tony Smith? Much less expectation at HKR. Also less interference from above and likely a longer shelf life.

Re: Agar out : Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:38 pm  

paddock wrote:

Much less expectation at HKR. Also less interference from above

Just making stuff up isn't particularly useful.

Re: Agar out : Tue Mar 15, 2022 11:38 pm  

Interference is an unknown but expectation isn't. Its not about Leeds being a bigger club, but the expectation would be that Smith would be able to return us to the glory days, and after a honeymoon period he'd be constantly under pressure to get us to finals and win things.

What does success look like for Smith at KR? He seems to be moving the club in the right direction. If I were him I'd stay put. If I were a KR fan I'd definitely want him to stay.

Re: Agar out : Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:12 am  

Once were Loiners wrote:

Interference is an unknown but expectation isn't. Its not about Leeds being a bigger club, but the expectation would be that Smith would be able to return us to the glory days, and after a honeymoon period he'd be constantly under pressure to get us to finals and win things.

What does success look like for Smith at KR? He seems to be moving the club in the right direction. If I were him I'd stay put. If I were a KR fan I'd definitely want him to stay.

Really ? realistically he won't ever win SL with KR and highly unlikely to win a CC. Agree he's moving KR forward and it's good to see, SL needs two strong Hull clubs and I mean no disrespect to KR, just being realistic. With Leeds there is much more of a chance of achieving both those in the not too distant future. I suspect he would be very interested in getting us back to the top again. It must be very tempting for him I would have thought.

Re: Agar out : Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:26 am  

Trebor1 wrote:

Really ? realistically he won't ever win SL with KR and highly unlikely to win a CC. Agree he's moving KR forward and it's good to see, SL needs two strong Hull clubs and I mean no disrespect to KR, just being realistic. With Leeds there is much more of a chance of achieving both those in the not too distant future. I suspect he would be very interested in getting us back to the top again. It must be very tempting for him I would have thought.

He would , but think the time to get him would have been before KR. Not sure he’s the right man to turn this around now. I’d prefer someone younger and more hunger. Looking at sport , how many times is a return to a club anything more than nostalgia…??

Re: Agar out : Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:02 pm  

Shabino wrote:

He would , but think the time to get him would have been before KR. Not sure he’s the right man to turn this around now. I’d prefer someone younger and more hunger. Looking at sport , how many times is a return to a club anything more than nostalgia…??

Agree with this, there is a saying for all career paths "Never go back", its a saying for a good reason

Re: Agar out : Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:59 am  

Smith was interested when he needed a new job. I just get the impression he's happy at KR and enjoying what he's doing. I'm not sure why he'd need the stress of Leeds now - he's 18 years older than in 2004.