Re: RD 19 | Leeds Rhinos v Castleford Tigers : Fri Jun 23, 2017 6:22 am  

Biff Tannen wrote:

Yes, winning the CC is far better than the hub cap. Ask Huddersfield fans if they would trade theirs from a few years back for it, i'm sure they would. Or would Hull trade their CC 2016 with whoever finished top...iv'e actually forgotten already who that was.

True. Whilst finishing top after 30 rounds is the "better achievement" if you asked most fans AND players they'd pick CC over LLS. For all our easy run in the cup so far, to win it we could still be looking at beating the current cup holders in a semi final and then the current SL champions at Wembley (which we've never done before) so it would hardly be a walk in the park to lift that trophy and two matches that would be tougher than any league fixture Cas have had.

Re: RD 19 | Leeds Rhinos v Castleford Tigers : Fri Jun 23, 2017 6:32 am  

cas all the way wrote:

According to Leeds fans you are our cup final which means we ain't doing too bad in our big games in the last couple of year.

Trust me I ain't getting giddy it all.....to the point where I'm looking at booking Holiday village in Turkey for 2 week on 30th September as the deals too good to miss. Think we are still punching. We have a few class players but too much ok players in our 17.

bloody horrible place. full of Turks

Re: RD 19 | Leeds Rhinos v Castleford Tigers : Fri Jun 23, 2017 6:46 am  

Biff Tannen wrote:

Yes, winning the CC is far better than the hub cap. Ask Huddersfield fans if they would trade theirs from a few years back for it, i'm sure they would. Or would Hull trade their CC 2016 with whoever finished top...iv'e actually forgotten already who that was.

As fans maybe but I bet if you ask the players which they would consider to be the higher achievement they would say the LLS

Re: RD 19 | Leeds Rhinos v Castleford Tigers : Fri Jun 23, 2017 6:58 am  

bet they wouldn't. Wembley win as opposed to what? it means nothing

Re: RD 19 | Leeds Rhinos v Castleford Tigers : Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:04 am  

Option A - win the CC and finish 2nd in the table
Option B - win the LLS but get knocked out of the cup early rounds.

If you asked the fans AND players to vote at the start of the year which they'd prefer then option A would not only win but it'd be a landslide.

Re: RD 19 | Leeds Rhinos v Castleford Tigers : Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:10 am  

PrinterThe wrote:

Option A - win the CC and finish 2nd in the table
Option B - win the LLS but get knocked out of the cup early rounds.

If you asked the fans AND players to vote at the start of the year which they'd prefer then option A would not only win but it'd be a landslide.

I know we have all had this discussion on here many times, mostly us having to defend ourselves for the fact we have won the GF from outside of the top 2 a few times, but it still rings true. Teams know the champions come from the top four, not finishing top of the ladder.therefore finishing top is not a priority for the sides going in and every game is not as must win as much as it was when first got you the championship. So, although no.1 spot is nice, all it means is a home time to get to OT and nothing more, that's just the way it is. The GF >>CC>>>>>>>>>>>>LLS

Re: RD 19 | Leeds Rhinos v Castleford Tigers : Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:15 am  

Gotcha wrote:

Challenge cup is a poor achievement in comparison. You only have to look at this year for that, with the draw we have had. Can anyone honestly say if Leeds won it this year it is a better achievement than a club like Cas finishing top of league? That would be some barrell scraping.

LOB

Re: RD 19 | Leeds Rhinos v Castleford Tigers : Fri Jun 23, 2017 8:25 am  

Should be a great game tonight just a shame both sides are not at full strength. It promises to be a close match and lets hope the best team on the night wins and it is not down to bad decisions from the officials.

Leeds seem to be up for it but must keep their discipline and not be overeager.

Re: RD 19 | Leeds Rhinos v Castleford Tigers : Fri Jun 23, 2017 9:17 am  

Biff Tannen wrote:

Yes, winning the CC is far better than the hub cap. Ask Huddersfield fans if they would trade theirs from a few years back for it, i'm sure they would. Or would Hull trade their CC 2016 with whoever finished top...iv'e actually forgotten already who that was.

Not in my opinion. But that wasn't the point raised, and as you say the merits of each has been argued to death previously.

The point was, which is the better achievement, a big club like Leeds winning a cup from just a few games, where the majority were lower division, or a smaller club like Castleford finishing top of a league over 29 weeks of rugby. I despair at anyone who says the CC is the better acheivement of the two, complete nonsense.

Re: RD 19 | Leeds Rhinos v Castleford Tigers : Fri Jun 23, 2017 9:28 am  

Gotcha wrote:

Not in my opinion. But that wasn't the point raised, and as you say the merits of each has been argued to death previously.

The point was, which is the better achievement, a big club like Leeds winning a cup from just a few games, where the majority were lower division, or a smaller club like Castleford finishing top of a league over 29 weeks of rugby. I despair at anyone who says the CC is the better acheivement of the two, complete nonsense.

Fair enough if that is your opinion i have no problem with it, and i see it totally differently as i have pointed out so no point arguing any more on it.

I could see why to Cas especially this year finishing top would mean a lot and be a vindication of how far they have come but in general. It would be interesting to hear what the Cas fans would value higher a first CC win at Wembley since 1986 or the LLS?