Re: General Chat | Relegation & Who's To Blame? Thread : Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:40 am  

Trebor1 wrote:

Yes agree he may want to finish his career back here. Would do nicely for 2 or 3 seasons.

He might not have a choice if he wants another 2 or 3 years at top level. A cracking signing though.

Re: General Chat | Relegation & Who's To Blame? Thread : Thu Aug 01, 2019 5:39 pm  

Marty
I think Brisbane has answered the question for me.
I also agree about the hooker problems we groomed hood and mcshane two great prospects.
They worked with buderis all time legend and were allowed to leave_
McShane is now the real deal and imo. Just what we need.How can he keep Powel happy and not us.
Wheels fell of a bit when Aiton was allowed to leave offered 1 year more wanted 2, he was what we need like mcshane, ball playing hooker with a kicking game.
If you have both halves that can kick as well as the hooker and in the past fullbacks with kicking games it makes the team impossible to shut down and the kick chasers can keep the pressure on.
Mostly this passed few years stop myler kicking stop leeds, to me that was parcels only fault and moon just punted it in the air.
Lastly we have struggled the last few seasons due to missing the points sinny used to get I’ve lost count of the games lost due to missed kicks and the lack of league points puts pressure on the team.

Re: General Chat | Relegation & Who's To Blame? Thread : Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:07 pm  

The players in this squad are still better than this precarious position they've got themselves in

Re: General Chat | Relegation & Who's To Blame? Thread : Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:13 pm  

lionarmour87 wrote:

The players in this squad are still better than this precarious position they've got themselves in

Yes I agree with that. Better than joint bottom. And that's where a top coach could make the difference but we're stuck with Agar...

Re: General Chat | Relegation & Who's To Blame? Thread : Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:22 pm  

The players are better but as a team they suck in attack and defence no structure in either we have no leader Merton is a hothead Watkins was the worst leeds captain i have ever seen and myler the worst organising half who gets a game by default every week.

Re: General Chat | Relegation & Who's To Blame? Thread : Fri Aug 02, 2019 1:23 am  

lionarmour87 wrote:

The players in this squad are still better than this precarious position they've got themselves in

I'm not sure they are any better at all, very little quality in this Leeds team.

Re: General Chat | Relegation & Who's To Blame? Thread : Fri Aug 02, 2019 5:10 am  

Chesterrhino wrote:

The players are better but as a team they suck in attack and defence no structure in either we have no leader Merton is a hothead Watkins was the worst leeds captain i have ever seen and myler the worst organising half who gets a game by default every week.

Who is Merton and a bit of punctuation wouldn’t go amiss

Re: General Chat | Relegation & Who's To Blame? Thread : Fri Aug 02, 2019 5:19 am  

Chesterrhino wrote:

The players are better but as a team they suck in attack and defence no structure in either we have no leader Merton is a hothead Watkins was the worst leeds captain i have ever seen and myler the worst organising half who gets a game by default every week.

Merton?

Re: General Chat | Relegation & Who's To Blame? Thread : Fri Aug 02, 2019 5:57 am  

Clearly Merrin

Re: General Chat | Relegation & Who's To Blame? Thread : Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:03 am  

BrisbaneRhino wrote:

Marty - hall didn't matter as much as the others.

We gambled on Sutcliffe coming through in 2016 which was fair enough as we still had McGuire, but he was utterly out of his depth. Instead of getting someone else in we went with moon, who again was carried by McGuire in 2017.

Why nobody seemed to realise we needed 2 halfbacks for 2018 is beyond me. Then having seen that fail we sign a reserve grade full back as one of our main playmakers. Utterly bonkers.

As for props, Galloway was a dinosaur in the NRL who hadn't looked like a first grade prop for years. Peteru had barely played when we signed him. These guys were supposed to replace JP and Kylie??? Garbutt has since left as well, so we're 3 class props down with only Ava looking the part as replacement.

As an aside I bet GH kept thinking he'd unearth another Kylie - in fact he was the exception that proved the rule that if you pay peanuts....

Then there was the whole hooker debacle which still isn't sorted.

In the meantime players like Austin, David Fifita etc have come to SL and we haven't signed one of the many good English players who have come off contract since 2015 - pretty much every player in SL would have been potentially available since then.

Now we've gone from a club that players might have been willing to play for on slight unders to one where they probably want a premium to join.

And few decent juniors over the last five years - Walker, Newman, Oledzki, maybe Smith.

All in all a complete and utter shambles.

Pretty good summary to me.

On their own many of the signings would be ok, but when grouped together over a period they just haven't been good enough for the players they were replacing.

To me there's are some bad decisions and there has been done bad luck. Ferres should have improved our squad, but just has been ravaged by injury.

We also seen to have signed ok players like myler, and then not had soave for some real class like Hastings, widdop or Austin.

Overall the buck stops with hetherington. He's the common factor in the whole mess. It's on his head