Re: 2 year deal for JP : Sat Mar 24, 2012 9:20 pm  

Juan Cornetto wrote:

Ok I would agree it is time for you to quit!

Funny how you choose to be selective when it suits your negative ramblings. You attempt to dismiss the fact that the pride of the NRL were bested by Leeds because it proves the paucity of your augument. It is you that has suggested JP spends his time reversing into the opposition and that this tactic only works in SL. As I pointed out Manly (a side full of Australian Internationals) had difficulty in coping with JP's technique particularly in the crucial final quarter. I suggest you take a look again at the replay of the WCC where you will be enlightened.

In the interests of accuracy ou may like to change your use of the word 'pirouetting' as this denotes a full rotation on one leg. Now had you used the term 'demi detourné' which is a half turn on both legs you may have been taken more seriously....but then again not

By the way if you could point me in the direction of the Australian team that won the World Club Championship this year I would be grateful?

You can't?

Thought not!

good one man

Re: 2 year deal for JP : Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:52 am  

Keith Swiftcorn wrote:

Nope, I didn't see any of that. I'm still waiting for those Peacock stats to back up your game-breaking assertions to enlightem me instead. How much longer do I have to wait?

Here's why James Graham was highly sought after by NRL clubs and why Jamie Peacock wasn't.

4N Final V Australia 2011
Graham 35 tackles, 1 ineffective, 1 missed, 19 runs, 134 metres gained, 1 offload
Peacock 27 tackles, 3 ineffective, 2 missed, 8 runs, 64 metres gained, zero offloads
V Australia 2008
Graham 33 tackles, 0 ineffective, 1 missed, 16 runs, 118 metres gained, 2 offloads
Peacock 34 tackles, 0 ineffective, 6 missed, 11 runs, 93 metres gained, zero offloads

No need because in the interests of accuracy, Peacock does invariably pirouette on one leg with his back turned at the point of impact, and in the absence of a Super League-esque offload under low-intensity SL match conditions (conspicuous by their absence at high-intensity international level against Australia of course) he then proceeds to continue through the full 360 degrees in order to position himself for his trademark and illegal quick PTB where the foot deliberately makes no contact with the ball.

I can point you in the direction of NRL teams who have turned up more than a week in advance of the WCC and where some even play a warm up game in the UK in the week prior to the WCC if you like? And guess what? They win. No surprises there, even if it's still a pre-season warm-up game for them.

If you love Australia so much why dont you f off and live there? Im sure due to your latest stats, that James Graham is looking for a flat mate to rub suncream on him and im quite sure he would love some one like you to do it for him. You make me laugh if you hate English RL and inparticular Leeds so much WTF are you doing wasting your time on here when you could be cracking one off to the NRL??

Re: 2 year deal for JP : Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:21 am  

rhinochris wrote:

If you love Australia so much why dont you f off and live there? Im sure due to your latest stats, that James Graham is looking for a flat mate to rub suncream on him and im quite sure he would love some one like you to do it for him. You make me laugh if you hate English RL and inparticular Leeds so much WTF are you doing wasting your time on here when you could be cracking one off to the NRL??

He doesn't need to, it's Swiftcorn he will be getting his daily ration of 'Burbing the worm' at the amount of replys he has generated on here.

Swiftcorn = same boring predictable S**t .. Different day

Re: 2 year deal for JP : Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:17 am  

rhinochris wrote:

If you love Australia so much why dont you f off and live there? Im sure due to your latest stats, that James Graham is looking for a flat mate to rub suncream on him and im quite sure he would love some one like you to do it for him. You make me laugh if you hate English RL and inparticular Leeds so much WTF are you doing wasting your time on here when you could be cracking one off to the NRL??

Truth hurts - answer the man's points?

Changing the tack smacks of defeat - how did they used to call on here "owned"

Anyone who watches the NRL on a regular basis can see the gulf in quality - to suggest references to it should ignored - because it makes your argument look bad - is laughable.

Get your head out of the sand - Peacock has been a top SL player, but to suggest he could cut it with the likes of Matt Scott -especially now - on a weekly basis is delusional.

Re: 2 year deal for JP : Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:51 am  

Sal Paradise wrote:

Truth hurts - answer the man's points?

Changing the tack smacks of defeat - how did they used to call on here "owned"

Anyone who watches the NRL on a regular basis can see the gulf in quality - to suggest references to it should ignored - because it makes your argument look bad - is laughable.

Get your head out of the sand - Peacock has been a top SL player, but to suggest he could cut it with the likes of Matt Scott -especially now - on a weekly basis is delusional.

If Peacock went to the NRL I am sure he would give a good account of himself, the stats that Swiftcorn as posted are only one side of the game, stats don't account for guts and determination which Peacock as in bucket loads but Graham as in a teacup.
There have been many so called battle hardened NRL players over the years who have come into Superleague and failed to hack it. The likes of Greg Eastwood, Ben Cross and Josh Perry to name but a few.

Re: 2 year deal for JP : Sun Mar 25, 2012 7:19 am  

Sal Paradise wrote:

Truth hurts - answer the man's points?

Changing the tack smacks of defeat - how did they used to call on here "owned"

Anyone who watches the NRL on a regular basis can see the gulf in quality - to suggest references to it should ignored - because it makes your argument look bad - is laughable.

Get your head out of the sand - Peacock has been a top SL player, but to suggest he could cut it with the likes of Matt Scott -especially now - on a weekly basis is delusional.

Considering the absolute dross which has cut it with the likes of Matt Scott in the NRL, and even won Grand Finals and made SoO I have no doubt Peacock could. When the likes of Ryan Tandy can come over here and struggle in such a low intensity environment yet then go back and get a contract with not one, not two but 3 NRL sides, and play in a Grand Final then only someone blinded by an almost masochistic inferiority complex could believe Peacock would struggle.

Its a wonder Australian internationals like Josh Perry, Joel Clinton and Antonio Kaufusi or an SoO prop like Ben Cross barely look like above average players in this lower intensity competition, and look vastly inferior to Peacock even at this stage of his career considering their Australian ubermenschen credentials.

Re: 2 year deal for JP : Sun Mar 25, 2012 7:44 am  

Sal Paradise wrote:

Truth hurts - answer the man's points?

Changing the tack smacks of defeat - how did they used to call on here "owned"

Anyone who watches the NRL on a regular basis can see the gulf in quality - to suggest references to it should ignored - because it makes your argument look bad - is laughable.

Get your head out of the sand - Peacock has been a top SL player, but to suggest he could cut it with the likes of Matt Scott -especially now - on a weekly basis is delusional.

I think that's missing the point, anyone is entitled to dislike or find the product inferior. The point being made is, if that is how he feels why continue to waste
time paying even a passing interest and forcing the same points time and time again. And if it really is for the purpose of getting a reaction/'owning' then that pretty much answers everything you need to know about someone.

Re: 2 year deal for JP : Sun Mar 25, 2012 7:56 am  

SmokeyTA wrote:

Considering the absolute dross which has cut it with the likes of Matt Scott in the NRL, and even won Grand Finals and made SoO I have no doubt Peacock could. When the likes of Ryan Tandy can come over here and struggle in such a low intensity environment yet then go back and get a contract with not one, not two but 3 NRL sides, and play in a Grand Final then only someone blinded by an almost masochistic inferiority complex could believe Peacock would struggle.

Its a wonder Australian internationals like Josh Perry, Joel Clinton and Antonio Kaufusi or an SoO prop like Ben Cross barely look like above average players in this lower intensity competition, and look vastly inferior to Peacock even at this stage of his career considering their Australian ubermenschen credentials.

But then the players you mentioned such as Tandy were only over here for a payday/holiday, and in all fairness were probably laughing so hard at the pi$$ poor SL that they could hardly focus on playing rugby.....just playing devils advocate

Re: 2 year deal for JP : Sun Mar 25, 2012 11:12 am  

Tony Soprano wrote:

And have a nice la las tonight.

Don't worry it wasn't a cry for help, my life is complete.

Not until you've frequented that boozer next door it isn't.

Re: 2 year deal for JP : Sun Mar 25, 2012 11:38 am  

Sal Paradise wrote:

Truth hurts - answer the man's points?

Changing the tack smacks of defeat - how did they used to call on here "owned"

Anyone who watches the NRL on a regular basis can see the gulf in quality - to suggest references to it should ignored - because it makes your argument look bad - is laughable.

Get your head out of the sand - Peacock has been a top SL player, but to suggest he could cut it with the likes of Matt Scott -especially now - on a weekly basis is delusional.

They can't answer the points I've raised because they've no credible argument to counter them, hence the feckwitted ad hominem nature of their responses.

If any other club in SL had signed or re-signed a player almost until his 37th birthday it would have been questioned and ridiculed by these very same people who are hailing JP's 2 year contract extension as fantastic news.

It is perfectly legitimate to question this contract extension (particularly the length of it), given that he's no spring chicken and in decline as a player. To suggest that it's a fantastic signing on the basis that NRL clubs were sniffing around hoping to sign him may be considered delusional at best and utterly demented at worst.