Re: Stadium Redevelopment : Wed Nov 22, 2017 1:43 pm  

Never got a reply from the club about the possiblity of purchasing a seat from the North Stand.

Re: Stadium Redevelopment : Wed Nov 22, 2017 8:47 pm  

Norman Stanley Fletcher wrote:

Never got a reply from the club about the possiblity of purchasing a seat from the North Stand.

For the wooden seats, the official line was that, because the were all connected together in rows it was impractical to remove them one-by-one. Not sure I fully buy that but it would definitely have been a bit of a fiddly job. I am surprised they didn't get a local company to offer a service of cutting them apart and maybe mounting them into a usable seat even if they didn't want to do it themselves. The stand stood around for long enough after the final use for it to be done.

Re: Stadium Redevelopment : Wed Nov 22, 2017 9:38 pm  

Frosties. wrote:

Looking at the latest photos, I’m not too keen on that standing area in the south Stand, looks incredibly lower than I thought it would be.

It only holds 5,500. I think the classic SS could take up to 10k before it had its capacity cut due to safety issues, so it will only be just over half the size (in terms of sqft)

Re: Stadium Redevelopment : Wed Nov 22, 2017 10:37 pm  

petertunks wrote:

It only holds 5,500. I think the classic SS could take up to 10k before it had its capacity cut due to safety issues, so it will only be just over half the size (in terms of sqft)

Square foot isn't entirely a like for like comparison as new build stands have more onerous requirement for space and circulation than ones built before modern legislation.

The stand also has a greater rake so the back of the standing section will be almost as high as the back of the old stand.

Re: Stadium Redevelopment : Wed Nov 22, 2017 11:23 pm  

Seating areas can't be as tight as they once were, but new build terraces allow for the maximum density of spectators permitted by the Green Guide and therefore local authorities. Older terraces tend more to being compromised in terms of modern safety regs, and are therefore licensed for lower densities (such as the SS in recent times)

The maximum density for the number of spectators in a standing area is 45ish per 10msq (without checking) and that number is reduced when certain other factors are deemed insufficiently "safe", such as the strength and arrangement of crush barriers. The replacement SS will obviously achieve 45ish per 10sqm, the classic SS presumably did when it had a certificate for circa 10k, it certainly wouldn't have been higher than 45ish

You're right of course that the increased rake will make it taller relative to its depth

Re: Stadium Redevelopment : Thu Nov 23, 2017 7:13 am  

gulfcoast_highwayman wrote: Another up to date feed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1okzVQ_OD4 Every time I have looked at 'live feed' links posted on here it has usually been this sort of time of day when daylight has broken but before the sun comes up. Looking at both the links just now, Leeds is in full daylight and it looks like it is about noon. Are these really live, or do I just keep tuning in to look at a loop / a paused image?

gulfcoast_highwayman wrote: Another up to date feed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1okzVQ_OD4 Every time I have looked at 'live feed' links posted on here it has usually been this sort of time of day when daylight has broken but before the sun comes up. Looking at both the links just now, Leeds is in full daylight and it looks like it is about noon. Are these really live, or do I just keep tuning in to look at a loop / a paused image?

Re: Stadium Redevelopment : Thu Nov 23, 2017 1:30 pm  

The trouble with live feeds is you get every H&S expert in the UK ringing up to say "I am watching your live feed & there is presently someone unloading a concrete mixer without a helmet on".

Re: Stadium Redevelopment : Thu Nov 23, 2017 3:03 pm  

Jamie101 wrote:

Every time I have looked at 'live feed' links posted on here it has usually been this sort of time of day when daylight has broken but before the sun comes up. Looking at both the links just now, Leeds is in full daylight and it looks like it is about noon. Are these really live, or do I just keep tuning in to look at a loop / a paused image?

The key I find is to go to youtube using the link then look for a more up to date one from the right hand column.

Re: Stadium Redevelopment : Thu Nov 23, 2017 7:05 pm  

petertunks wrote:

Seating areas can't be as tight as they once were, but new build terraces allow for the maximum density of spectators permitted by the Green Guide and therefore local authorities. Older terraces tend more to being compromised in terms of modern safety regs, and are therefore licensed for lower densities (such as the SS in recent times)

The maximum density for the number of spectators in a standing area is 45ish per 10msq (without checking) and that number is reduced when certain other factors are deemed insufficiently "safe", such as the strength and arrangement of crush barriers. The replacement SS will obviously achieve 45ish per 10sqm, the classic SS presumably did when it had a certificate for circa 10k, it certainly wouldn't have been higher than 45ish

You're right of course that the increased rake will make it taller relative to its depth

Turns out the SS only ever held a max of 8k post-Taylor

I checked the depth of the new terrace and it's about 13m. The classic SS was about 20m. Not quite 5.5/8ths, but there or thereabouts

Re: Stadium Redevelopment : Thu Nov 23, 2017 7:23 pm  

petertunks wrote:

Turns out the SS only ever held a max of 8k post-Taylor

I checked the depth of the new terrace and it's about 13m. The classic SS was about 20m. Not quite 5.5/8ths, but there or thereabouts

I’m still thoroughly disappointed that the new stand has gone ahead in this design