Re: 2024 Rule Changes : Sun Feb 18, 2024 2:39 pm  

So the application of the new rules have been inconsistent to say the least and it will be interesting to see what the disciplinary review panel come up with in terms of sanctions. I can only comment on the ones I have seen but hers my view.
Momorovski sin bin just a pen as player ran into him.
Salford hooker sin bin complete joke not even a pen.
Brierley although instinctive and no intent would have benn a red under new rules if he was a player with a rep ie BentleyWatts etc
Pele clear red card pure stupid.
Lao can see qhy given but fwlt harsh.
Micky Mac stupid not needed and a red under new rules.
Liam Watts very harsh as no intent and must wonder if his name is on a card ever time he plays!
Harry Smith struggle to understand how thats deemed to be accidental other than hes a current England International and different rules apply!
Didnt see the Leigh game but apparently that was quite feisty

Re: 2024 Rule Changes : Sun Feb 18, 2024 2:45 pm  

Loiner at large wrote:

So the application of the new rules have been inconsistent to say the least and it will be interesting to see what the disciplinary review panel come up with in terms of sanctions. I can only comment on the ones I have seen but hers my view.
Momorovski sin bin just a pen as player ran into him.
Salford hooker sin bin complete joke not even a pen.
Brierley although instinctive and no intent would have benn a red under new rules if he was a player with a rep ie BentleyWatts etc
Pele clear red card pure stupid.
Lao can see qhy given but fwlt harsh.
Micky Mac stupid not needed and a red under new rules.
Liam Watts very harsh as no intent and must wonder if his name is on a card ever time he plays!
Harry Smith struggle to understand how thats deemed to be accidental other than hes a current England International and different rules apply!
Didnt see the Leigh game but apparently that was quite feisty

The Salford hooker sinbin was perfectly fine, it was for repeat offences of laying in the ruck.

Nene should have been sinbinned for a professional foul aswell, surprised that wasn’t picked up.

Re: 2024 Rule Changes : Sun Feb 18, 2024 2:54 pm  

I'm with lingard on the watts one, how do you coach your players to avoid that, ball carrier goes low leading head first. Very soft red for me.

Re: 2024 Rule Changes : Sun Feb 18, 2024 2:55 pm  

It wasn't as bad as I was expecting. Most of the red cards were given to players who have always struggled to keep their discipline, and I don't have an issue with any of the really. The Watts red is debatable, but I can see why it was given.
With regards to Bourouh's sin binning, I thought was given due Salford giving away several penalties in a short period of time rather than the offence itself.

Re: 2024 Rule Changes : Sun Feb 18, 2024 3:01 pm  

Jack Burton wrote:

It wasn't as bad as I was expecting. Most of the red cards were given to players who have always struggled to keep their discipline, and I don't have an issue with any of the really. The Watts red is debatable, but I can see why it was given.
With regards to Bourouh's sin binning, I thought was given due Salford giving away several penalties in a short period of time rather than the offence itself.

That was my interpretation.

Re: 2024 Rule Changes : Sun Feb 18, 2024 5:21 pm  

Harry Smith gets a red and it’s unlikely he plays in the WCC right? We need our best players on the big stage (this is legitimate, and the current rules suck).

A red given with 5 mins to go is not the same as a red given 5 mins in - the punishment itself isn’t consistent. Being banned for a league game should not have the same weighting as finals or internationals either, it’s a joke IMO.

We have to keep going back to: why are the rules in place? A: player safety. Next question is: so the rules work. A: no not really.

As others have said the current rules focus only on tacklers getting punished: defenders actually are at just as much if not more risk of concussion than the ball carrier.

Re: 2024 Rule Changes : Sun Feb 18, 2024 5:49 pm  

I don’t think Watt’s card had anything to do with the new rules, it’s a shoulder charge directly to the head, it’s been a red for quite a while

Re: 2024 Rule Changes : Sun Feb 18, 2024 6:24 pm  

Watts was an unusual one - technically on the logic both him and Westerman should have been dismissed.

I don’t know I’d love to work with the rule makers, I just feel it’s been a mess for ages and next year anyone’s guess. Those rules were an absolute shambles at academy level - laughably bad.. if they don’t integrate bettter with the senior game I’m serious, we won’t have a viable sport any more.

Re: 2024 Rule Changes : Sun Feb 18, 2024 6:49 pm  

I cant agree that it's a shoulder charge and 100% wouldn't have been a red even last year.

Re: 2024 Rule Changes : Sun Feb 18, 2024 7:14 pm  

Like Mom’s tackle he got binned for - just looked a good solid shot to me. If we are going to start red carding players for tackles like that next year I have no idea where the sport is going. This for me is the biggest crisis RL has faced - and of course the issues of player welfare are so serious and we need to better protect them.