Re: James Segeyaro : Wed Dec 07, 2016 10:32 am  

Clearwing wrote:

Maybe wire should have helped resolve the issues that made it impossible for him to remain in the area?

Warrington's focus has been on the positive contributions Sandow made at the club whilst understanding the personal challenges and reasons why he's not returning to the club. They've been proactive and moved on.

Leeds focus has been spiteful, with little acknowledgement since of the positive contributions Segeyaro made at the club last season. There's been little attempt at reaching an understanding. The club have been reactive, they've not yet moved on and are threatening legal action instead.

Re: James Segeyaro : Wed Dec 07, 2016 11:23 am  

William Eve wrote:

Warrington's focus has been on the positive contributions Sandow made at the club whilst understanding the personal challenges and reasons why he's not returning to the club. They've been proactive and moved on.

Leeds focus has been spiteful, with little acknowledgement since of the positive contributions Segeyaro made at the club last season. There's been little attempt at reaching an understanding. The club have been reactive, they've not yet moved on and are threatening legal action instead.

Which they should.

Re: James Segeyaro : Wed Dec 07, 2016 11:50 am  

William Eve wrote:

Warrington's focus has been on the positive contributions Sandow made at the club whilst understanding the personal challenges and reasons why he's not returning to the club..

Would Smith saying this count as all positive

“In terms of off-field, there will be a few less grey hairs around the place, that’s for sure,” Smith told TotalRL.

“He was OK for most of it, and at sometimes he was a pain in the proverbial. He was a fair mix, he was certainly a character, as everyone had worked out.

“He brightened us up at different stages and was exciting to watch for a while, but he became a bit unreliable. For him to ring, well not ring, to inform the club, none of it is surprising to us."

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Also I don't hear anything about Sandow doing it because he's trying to join another team (isn't he trying to start a boxing career?), if he was Wire might feel quite differently.

Re: James Segeyaro : Wed Dec 07, 2016 11:55 am  

I don't see where Leeds have been particularly worse or better than any other club with regard to player treatment. Maybe we haven't always recruited well and sometimes had to deal with the consequences of players who don't understand professionalism.
For me Segeyaro was a poor signing from word go. The mistake was (deliberately IMO) not seeing the obvious, that he'd go home and not want to come back. After that mistake it's hard to see what the club can do that doesn't look bad in some way.

Re: James Segeyaro : Wed Dec 07, 2016 12:06 pm  

William Eve wrote:

The difference in the way Warrington have handled Sandow with the way the malevolent, threatening, revengeful and litigious Leeds have handled Segeyaro is stark.

Warrington, although disappointed, have moved on quickly and immediately got around to seeking a replacement. Leeds OTOH have moaned, groaned, spat the dummy, threatened, sanctioned and done sweet FA about a replacement apart from announce a Plan B, whatever that is.

If Leeds had done what Warrington have done and Warrington had done the Leeds thing your comments would have been opposite too . Oh why did I bite?

Re: James Segeyaro : Wed Dec 07, 2016 12:06 pm  

Segeyaro was a poor signing.

Think we've heard it all now.

Re: James Segeyaro : Wed Dec 07, 2016 12:08 pm  

Australian half-back Chris Sandow's exit from Warrington was not a shock, says Wolves head coach Tony Smith. "The timing of it wasn't great, but Chris is erratic like he is on the field," Smith said. "I wasn't overly shocked. The timing and the method of informing us was poor, but aside from that there were no grand shocks." And, asked if he had any regrets about signing the player, Smith told BBC Radio Merseyside: "No, he did some terrific stuff along the way and he contributed. "We knew what we were getting into and he didn't cause any major hassles off the field. He showed at times how outstanding he can be." Moving on in a sensible and proactive way as opposed to spitting the dummy, getting all litigious, malevolent and egotistically precious, despite knowing all the risks from Day 1... Former Huddersfield, Leeds and Great Britain coach Smith said the club are already looking at potential replacements for next season. "We've had plenty of contact from a lot of keen and interested people and so we'll be in the market; we've got some money to play with," he added.

Australian half-back Chris Sandow's exit from Warrington was not a shock, says Wolves head coach Tony Smith. "The timing of it wasn't great, but Chris is erratic like he is on the field," Smith said. "I wasn't overly shocked. The timing and the method of informing us was poor, but aside from that there were no grand shocks." And, asked if he had any regrets about signing the player, Smith told BBC Radio Merseyside: "No, he did some terrific stuff along the way and he contributed. "We knew what we were getting into and he didn't cause any major hassles off the field. He showed at times how outstanding he can be." Moving on in a sensible and proactive way as opposed to spitting the dummy, getting all litigious, malevolent and egotistically precious, despite knowing all the risks from Day 1... Former Huddersfield, Leeds and Great Britain coach Smith said the club are already looking at potential replacements for next season. "We've had plenty of contact from a lot of keen and interested people and so we'll be in the market; we've got some money to play with," he added.

Re: James Segeyaro : Wed Dec 07, 2016 12:15 pm  

DHM wrote:

I don't see where Leeds have been particularly worse or better than any other club with regard to player treatment. Maybe we haven't always recruited well and sometimes had to deal with the consequences of players who don't understand professionalism.
For me Segeyaro was a poor signing from word go. The mistake was (deliberately IMO) not seeing the obvious, that he'd go home and not want to come back. After that mistake it's hard to see what the club can do that doesn't look bad in some way.

I think he was an essential temporary signing last season in order to stave off the threat of relegation for 23 rounds in 2017.

I agree that beyond that temporary shift of his last season, it made no sense whatsoever to try and extend his stay at Leeds beyond 2016. He never wanted to return. Most fans sensed that, and I'd be surprised if club management didn't also share the same view.

Poor management all round IMO and lots of faux outrage on display after the inevitable announcement that Segeyaro wasn't returning to the club.

Re: James Segeyaro : Wed Dec 07, 2016 12:32 pm  

At least three NRL clubs are eyeing Chris Sandow who has expressed a desire to return to the Australian top-flight in 2017. The 27-year-old is on the market after walking out on the final year of his contract with Super League club Warrington. St George Illawarra, Melbourne and Canterbury are all believed to be interested in the former Parramatta playmaker. Sandow confirmed his manager was investigating all options. “I am not worried about it,” Sandow told Sky Sports Radio. “I have got a good manager and he’s been working on that, I am leaving it up to him. “I am going to wait and see and let you guys wait on that I think.“Fingers crossed, that’s all I can say.” That's alright then. Good to see Warrington moving on.

At least three NRL clubs are eyeing Chris Sandow who has expressed a desire to return to the Australian top-flight in 2017. The 27-year-old is on the market after walking out on the final year of his contract with Super League club Warrington. St George Illawarra, Melbourne and Canterbury are all believed to be interested in the former Parramatta playmaker. Sandow confirmed his manager was investigating all options. “I am not worried about it,” Sandow told Sky Sports Radio. “I have got a good manager and he’s been working on that, I am leaving it up to him. “I am going to wait and see and let you guys wait on that I think.“Fingers crossed, that’s all I can say.” That's alright then. Good to see Warrington moving on.

Re: James Segeyaro : Wed Dec 07, 2016 1:10 pm  

The massive difference between the Sandow & Segayaro positions is that Warrington clearly wanted rid whereas Leeds did not.
Ergo Warrington did not mind him walking away from his contract since that would save them having to pay off him off.