Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Sun Jun 16, 2019 6:43 am  

ploinerrhino wrote:

If we do not sign Hastings when Watkins goes then we will go down

I agree. I think Abdull at London is better than any of our halves. He tore Catalan apart yesterday. Coach of the year Danny Ward. Amazing what a good coach can get out of his players.

Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:12 am  

Trebor1 wrote:

I agree. I think Abdull at London is better than any of our halves. He tore Catalan apart yesterday. Coach of the year Danny Ward. Amazing what a good coach can get out of his players.

Agreed. Abdull and Smith are a decent pair, maguire and Drinkwater are a decent pair, Myler and Suttcliffe are an absolutely woeful pair. With the London or Hull KR halfs, we win that Wigan game. Its criminal that they're our starting halfs.

Danny Wards doing brilliantly, every single player plays to there best and they all know what to do and when, well coached team

Iv been banging the ferres is useless drum hard all season and il have another go here, worst backrower in superleague, he does absolutely nothing positive and absolutely loads of negative, his only noticeable contributions are always ones that hurt the team. S**t , s**t , S**t player. Jay flaming Pitts offers more than him.

Despite Ferres though, the Halfs our biggest problem, theyr the ones who piece everything together and we'v got the worst pair in the league. If theyr our starting halfs for the Catalan game, god help us.

Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:17 am  

mattsrhinos1978 wrote:

Agreed. Abdull and Smith are a decent pair, maguire and Drinkwater are a decent pair, Myler and Suttcliffe are an absolutely woeful pair. With the London or Hull KR halfs, we win that Wigan game. Its criminal that they're our starting halfs.

Danny Wards doing brilliantly, every single player plays to there best and they all know what to do and when, well coached team

Iv been banging the ferres is useless drum hard all season and il have another go here, worst backrower in superleague, he does absolutely nothing positive and absolutely loads of negative, his only noticeable contributions are always ones that hurt the team. S**t , s**t , S**t player. Jay flaming Pitts offers more than him.

Despite Ferres though, the Halfs our biggest problem, theyr the ones who piece everything together and we'v got the worst pair in the league. If theyr our starting halfs for the Catalan game, god help us.

Agree bud. We should have sorted it in pre season. Just pray to god we can bring someone in over the next week or 2

Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:18 pm  

tad rhino wrote:

why do you thing sutcliffe keeps getting picked at 6? sinny loves him

great judgement

Careful or you will accused of having an agenda

Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:39 pm  

Let's be honest, it would be easier and quicker to pick the players you want to keep than those to get rid off.

The whole squad is a mess.

If we sign a decent halfback we might just dodge relegation but there is still an enormous amount of work needed on the squad over the next 2/3 years before the promising crop of youngsters we have can really make an impact.

We need a coach who can get a team to be better than the sum of its parts.

Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:54 pm  

Fallon wrote:

Let's be honest, it would be easier and quicker to pick the players you want to keep than those to get rid off.

The whole squad is a mess.

If we sign a decent halfback we might just dodge relegation but there is still an enormous amount of work needed on the squad over the next 2/3 years before the promising crop of youngsters we have can really make an impact.

We need a coach who can get a team to be better than the sum of its parts.

If we’re going to win things again we need the youth to come through and not fizzle; we need top quality senior players (getting there) AND a top coach.
I think if we can sort a high quality 6 for this season, we should be OK - depending on a bit of Lady Luck.
We could do without picking up serious injuries to key players for the run-in. Ward, Peteru, Holroyd, Walker and maybe Crosby back plus the stand off and we should be winning games like Friday’s against Wigan.
If we do stay up, we would have a much more positive season to look forward to next year I’m sure. I think this is the pinch point right now.

Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Sun Jun 16, 2019 9:24 pm  

League weekly reporting that Jason Demetriou is our no.1 target.

Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Sun Jun 16, 2019 9:48 pm  

sharky64 wrote:

League weekly reporting that Jason Demetriou is our no.1 target.

Really? Good if true.

Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:06 am  

Demetriou was in the mix again for the Broncos not long ago. Seems to have just had bad luck in terms of cracking first grade coaching here. He might well see coming to SL as a chance to improve his chances in the NRL moving forwards. I wouldn't have a problem with him doing that.

Whilst agreeing our squad seems a huge mess, it can't be ignored that we've added a whole bunch of new players this year, to little effect. We have focused on the wrong areas for way too long, namely the spine. Ignoring full back we have zero control out of 6,7 or 9 and no kicking game. Lolohea was an awful signing, not just because he was never a first grade halfback but also because our plan B was Myler/Sutcliffe.

It will be interesting to watch Lolohea for Tonga this weekend. He'll probably do a couple of good things and not look too bad, but playing alongside that pack I reckon any second grade halfback would fancy their chances.

Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Mon Jun 17, 2019 6:12 am  

BrisbaneRhino wrote:

Demetriou was in the mix again for the Broncos not long ago. Seems to have just had bad luck in terms of cracking first grade coaching here. He might well see coming to SL as a chance to improve his chances in the NRL moving forwards. I wouldn't have a problem with him doing that.

Whilst agreeing our squad seems a huge mess, it can't be ignored that we've added a whole bunch of new players this year, to little effect. We have focused on the wrong areas for way too long, namely the spine. Ignoring full back we have zero control out of 6,7 or 9 and no kicking game. Lolohea was an awful signing, not just because he was never a first grade halfback but also because our plan B was Myler/Sutcliffe.

It will be interesting to watch Lolohea for Tonga this weekend. He'll probably do a couple of good things and not look too bad, but playing alongside that pack I reckon any second grade halfback would fancy their chances.

I think Leeds have been in panic mode much of the time and the signings have been tactical (who is available?) rather than structural, as you say.
To be fair there have been some good signings in there. Ava looks good. Walters and O’Connor both played for Lancs in winning Academy Origin series (few years off first team impact).. Mellor might be alright.
Honestly think KS is between a rock and a hard place right now. Has his hands tied with some exits due to pre-existing commitments, and we can only sign players who are available, good enough and where some other club doesn’t outbid us. Most good players want to win silverware and we’ve got ourselves underneath the “threshold of credibility” now. I’m not sure Leeds has the same brand draw now that it did 4/5 years ago to be honest.
Not being negative, there are things we can do, but it’s very hard to turn the oil tanker around once the wrong course has been set.