Re: SL GF | St Helens (Old Trafford) : Sat Sep 17, 2022 3:41 pm  

Welsby's was a reckless shoulder to the head with force that bust his nose. If the MRP are consistent then it is a banker ban.

Newman confirmed ruled out next week and the GF. He has undergone surgery on his hamstring.

Re: SL GF | St Helens (Old Trafford) : Sat Sep 17, 2022 3:41 pm  

Newman definitely won’t be playing - infact he won’t be playing for 6 months, had surgery on the hamstring injury

Re: SL GF | St Helens (Old Trafford) : Sat Sep 17, 2022 3:43 pm  

christopher wrote:

How does chest on chest contact lead to a bloody nose?

Contact with the floor? Carried from a previous tackle that burst on his head whipping back? Head collision? Probably 10 more if anyone could be bothered to continue.

The day we use outcomes as a reason to ban we’re done. No angle showed any head contact from Welsby despite the result of the bust nose.

Re: SL GF | St Helens (Old Trafford) : Sat Sep 17, 2022 3:47 pm  

Magic Superbeetle wrote: Contact with the floor? Carried from a previous tackle that burst on his head whipping back? Head collision? Probably 10 more if anyone could be bothered to continue. The day we use outcomes as a reason to ban we’re done. No angle showed any head contact from Welsby despite the result of the bust nose. https://twitter.com/thesportsman/status ... 05507?s=21 Shoulder to the head

Magic Superbeetle wrote: Contact with the floor? Carried from a previous tackle that burst on his head whipping back? Head collision? Probably 10 more if anyone could be bothered to continue. The day we use outcomes as a reason to ban we’re done. No angle showed any head contact from Welsby despite the result of the bust nose. https://twitter.com/thesportsman/status ... 05507?s=21 Shoulder to the head

Re: SL GF | St Helens (Old Trafford) : Sat Sep 17, 2022 3:47 pm  

Magic Superbeetle wrote:

Knowles should absolutely get a ban. But the suggestion anything else deserves a ban is farcical. There was nothing in the Welsby contact other then chest on chest contact. I cannot believe I have just seen someone claim a professional foul should lead to a ban …

Tend to agree. I'm a big fan of Knowles, but that was really dangerous play - far more so than Bateman's red last night - and it should be punished. As for the rest don't really see any bans, but then again some ridiculous stuff has been handed out this season.

Re: SL GF | St Helens (Old Trafford) : Sat Sep 17, 2022 3:49 pm  

rugbyleague88 wrote:

Welsby's was a reckless shoulder to the head with force that bust his nose. If the MRP are consistent then it is a banker ban.

Newman confirmed ruled out next week and the GF. He has undergone surgery on his hamstring.

That’s terrible news for Newman, and extremely concerning for his long term future in the game.
Is it the same hamstring as previous op?

Re: SL GF | St Helens (Old Trafford) : Sat Sep 17, 2022 3:49 pm  

ArthurClues wrote:

Tend to agree. I'm a big fan of Knowles, but that was really dangerous play - far more so than Bateman's red last night - and it should be punished. As for the rest don't really see any bans, but then again some ridiculous stuff has been handed out this season.

I don’t think Welsby should be banned either but weve (and other teams) had players banned for less this year

Re: SL GF | St Helens (Old Trafford) : Sat Sep 17, 2022 3:50 pm  

christopher wrote:

https://twitter.com/thesportsman/status/1571119027661205507?s=21

Shoulder to the head

I really dont know where you think you see any head contact in that.

Re: SL GF | St Helens (Old Trafford) : Sat Sep 17, 2022 3:50 pm  

Shabino wrote:

That’s terrible news for Newman, and extremely concerning for his long term future in the game.
Is it the same hamstring as previous op?

No, other leg.

Re: SL GF | St Helens (Old Trafford) : Sat Sep 17, 2022 3:51 pm  

Magic Superbeetle wrote:

I really dont know where you think you see any head contact in that.

His shoulder hits his head.

Don’t worry he won’t get a ban.