Re: St Helens CC Semi Final Friday 8pm BBC2 : Fri Jul 31, 2015 10:46 am  

Andy Gilder wrote:

Where does this assumption come from that Friday night is "prime time TV"?

Look at the ratings that anything other than the big soaps (Emmerdale, Corrie, Eastenders) gets on a Friday night. They're down around the 1 million mark, for established shows that are on every week and have a regular audience.

Saturday and Sunday afternoons - when generally there's sod all else on particularly in summer - are your best chance of picking up casual viewers who aren't already fans of the sport. Isn't that what TV coverage is supposed to be about, attracting new fans to the game?

As stated elsewhere, the assumption that Friday night TV is prime time comes from everyone involved in television ever, and is backed up by about 60 years worth of data.

The fact that there's "nothing on" on weekend afternoons is neither here nor there. Unlike Friday nights, there's no-one in either.

Re: St Helens CC Semi Final Friday 8pm BBC2 : Fri Jul 31, 2015 10:52 am  

ThePrinter wrote:

Maybe you should get in touch with the organisers of Children in Need and Red Nose Day and inform them that they're onto a loser having it in the graveyard slot of Friday night. Tell them to get it switched to Saturday afternoon at 3pm and I'm sure they'll make a ton more money.

Then again, they wouldn't have to put up with Lenny Henry whining about driving up the M6 on a Friday.

Re: St Helens CC Semi Final Friday 8pm BBC2 : Fri Jul 31, 2015 11:12 am  

Andy Gilder wrote:

Saturday and Sunday afternoons - when generally there's sod all else on particularly in summer - are your best chance of picking up casual viewers who aren't already fans of the sport. Isn't that what TV coverage is supposed to be about, attracting new fans to the game?

Saturday & Sunday afternoons when people are generally out doing things they can't do during the working week - Shopping, hobbies, visiting family, family days out etc. Personally I hate been sat in on a weekend afternoon, watching tv is the last thing I'd like to do as myself along with 90% of Britains population spend their week nights doing just that.

Summary: A pretty daft pov.

Re: St Helens CC Semi Final Friday 8pm BBC2 : Fri Jul 31, 2015 3:59 pm  

The Eagle wrote:

RL fans are used to watching it on TV on a friday night. ON a saturday / sunday afternoon there is a large proportion of people interested in RL who get involved with an amateur team, and would therefore not be watching

TV coverage isn't about existing fans of the game. It's about attracting new fans who aren't already turning up/watching regardless.

Re: St Helens CC Semi Final Friday 8pm BBC2 : Fri Jul 31, 2015 3:59 pm  

ThePrinter wrote:

Maybe you should get in touch with the organisers of Children in Need and Red Nose Day and inform them that they're onto a loser having it in the graveyard slot of Friday night. Tell them to get it switched to Saturday afternoon at 3pm and I'm sure they'll make a ton more money.

An excellent analogy, as ever.

No, really. Your contributions continue to be insightful.

Re: St Helens CC Semi Final Friday 8pm BBC2 : Fri Jul 31, 2015 4:19 pm  

Andy Gilder wrote:

An excellent analogy, as ever.

No, really. Your contributions continue to be insightful.

A bit rich coming from a guy whose last post got immediately shot down by several posters for being nonsense.

Re: St Helens CC Semi Final Friday 8pm BBC2 : Sat Aug 01, 2015 10:42 am  

Emagdnim13 wrote:

I would much rather see

Hardaker
Briscoe
Watkins
Moon
Hall

Sinfield
McGuire

Kylie
Aiton
Peacock
Ward/JJB
Ablett
Cuthbertson

JJB/Burrow (depending on Wards fitness?)
Garbutt
Singleton
Delaney

If Ward is fit I would rather drop Burrow and take four forwards on the bench. Facing Roby at hooker I just don't want Burrow near that.
If Ward isn't fit then the last bench spot goes to Burrow by default really. If he has a stormer i'll eat my words but I just don't think he will have a big enough impact to offset his deficiencies in the Hooker role. We just lose too much.

have you started munching those words yet?

Re: St Helens CC Semi Final Friday 8pm BBC2 : Sat Aug 01, 2015 11:18 am  

Juan Cornetto wrote:

have you started munching those words yet?

I'm full after my breakfast!.
I still would have chosen the same team but Burrow had a decent game. The break was great and a really turned the clock back but then the knock on at the PtB (Sinny Inc) was dire.

Very glad Aiton is said to only have a concussion and that Ward will benefit from an extra week off. Big game vs wire coming up, especially if we have them in the CC final.a third loss this season before the final and it must be on their minds.

Think I'd have Ward in for JJB and the last spot on the bench for Burrow vs Wire.Hope the game plan is to use our backs and go around the big wire pack than try go through them.

Re: St Helens CC Semi Final Friday 8pm BBC2 : Sat Aug 01, 2015 12:04 pm  

Emagdnim13 wrote:

I'm full after my breakfast!.
I still would have chosen the same team but Burrow had a decent game. The break was great and a really turned the clock back but then the knock on at the PtB (Sinny Inc) was dire.

Very glad Aiton is said to only have a concussion and that Ward will benefit from an extra week off. Big game vs wire coming up, especially if we have them in the CC final.a third loss this season before the final and it must be on their minds.

Think I'd have Ward in for JJB and the last spot on the bench for Burrow vs Wire.Hope the game plan is to use our backs and go around the big wire pack than try go through them.

With Ailton off so early in the game we would have been in big trouble without Burrow in the side. The splendid and crucial Moon try would not have happened without Burrow and his back up and assist pass for the JP special was a turning point in the match. So his contribution was more than "decent" ok he made an error but so did MOM Sinny and Hardaker too but they all can be allowed the odd mistake given how well they played.

Pity you couldn't honour your promise

Re: St Helens CC Semi Final Friday 8pm BBC2 : Sat Aug 01, 2015 12:21 pm  

He played well, had a decent game and a few big touches. I have no trouble admitting that at all.

The injury was unlucky and gave Burrow big minutes at hooker which he isn't suited to.it seems to really slow us down, this time it was necessary.normally it isn't.

I think the mistake and the slowness / needing Sinny, McGuire and others help out at DH detracts enough to say he had a great or fantastic game. Hence my saying he had a decent game etc.