Re: 2020 | Squad talk : Wed Dec 11, 2019 4:36 pm  

Happy to keep Dwyer for a year. We don't know how Leeming will settle and Johnson is a way off.

That said, if any player is not happy with their position at the club they have two options for me. Get better or get out.

Re: 2020 | Squad talk : Wed Dec 11, 2019 5:16 pm  

Fallon wrote:

Happy to keep Dwyer for a year. We don't know how Leeming will settle and Johnson is a way off.

That said, if any player is not happy with their position at the club they have two options for me. Get better or get out.

Without him not having any run of games how do you know Johnson is way off??

Re: 2020 | Squad talk : Wed Dec 11, 2019 7:29 pm  

RHINO-MARK wrote:

Without him not having any run of games how do you know Johnson is way off??

Any player that couldn't break into that shower of rubbish last season is clearly not ready.

Re: 2020 | Squad talk : Wed Dec 11, 2019 9:56 pm  

Or as with so many coaches under pressure Agar kept picking supposedly 'solid' older players who failed to perform week after week? We said lack of chances for kids would be a side-effect of another poor season.

Re: 2020 | Squad talk : Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:54 am  

BrisbaneRhino wrote:

Or as with so many coaches under pressure Agar kept picking supposedly 'solid' older players who failed to perform week after week? We said lack of chances for kids would be a side-effect of another poor season.

A fair point but with parcell on the outer and then gone, Lunt brought in and then injured and Dwyer doing his headless chicken routine I believe it is telling Johnson only got a cameo once we were safe. If Johnson was ready he should have been able to get more game time.

He also looked very uncomfortable in his cameo.

To run with only Leeming and Johnson next season would be short sighted and an unnecessary risk for me. Let's see how Leeming settles and let's not overburden Johnson before his career even starts. If he is ready then he will quickly get Dwyer's expected bench spot and then Dwyer can leave. If he isn't he has further time to get there.

Yes we need to develop kids but they need a sensible controlled path to the first team. Not to get lobbed in while we all cross our fingers.

Re: 2020 | Squad talk : Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:42 am  

Fallon wrote:

He also looked very uncomfortable in his cameo.

Sorry but that one line is the daftest thing I have seen on here in a long time. You had it pointed out to you before. What the hell you were watching at that game is anyone's guess. Distribution superb when on. Try assist, no missed tackles, and very nearly a try of his own. How in this world that is uncomfortable I do not know?

Re: 2020 | Squad talk : Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:28 am  

Gotcha wrote:

Sorry but that one line is the daftest thing I have seen on here in a long time. You had it pointed out to you before. What the hell you were watching at that game is anyone's guess. Distribution superb when on. Try assist, no missed tackles, and very nearly a try of his own. How in this world that is uncomfortable I do not know?

Totally agree Gotcha, although putting too much emphasis on a short cameo in a dead rubber would be a bit daft he did look very comfortable and ready for first team game time, biggest thing that stood out was his distribution which was better than we have had for a long time IMO

Re: 2020 | Squad talk : Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:51 am  

christopher wrote:

Totally agree Gotcha, although putting too much emphasis on a short cameo in a dead rubber would be a bit daft he did look very comfortable and ready for first team game time, biggest thing that stood out was his distribution which was better than we have had for a long time IMO

I gave a number of reasons why I don't believe dumping Dwyer yet is the right move. Johnsons's tentative cameo is just one, though to jump on it obviously serves your particular agenda.

I hope Johnson comes good, I have no reason to think he won't but I see no reason to overburden the lad at this early point in his career.

Re: 2020 | Squad talk : Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:54 pm  

Of course Corey isnt ready, how can he be? Hes a teenager that has only played 10 mins of SL. In the same way Sinfield, Maggsy, Rob, JJB, Disko, Chev etc wasnt ready for SL after playing 10 mins.

People genuinely expect kids to come into the 1st team and look like superstars or the kid isnt anywhere near good enough?

Ive watched a lot of Corey and hes a tremendous prospect, he did great in his little taster of SL. He needs a bit more time this season in 1st team and then weve a hooker for the next 10 years.

He will be good for Leeds for a long time.

Re: 2020 | Squad talk : Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:59 pm  

Marty Grrrrrrrrrr! wrote:

Of course Corey isnt ready, how can he be? Hes a teenager that has only played 10 mins of SL. In the same way Sinfield, Maggsy, Rob, JJB, Disko, Chev etc wasnt ready for SL after playing 10 mins.

People genuinely expect kids to come into the 1st team and look like superstars or the kid isnt anywhere near good enough?

Ive watched a lot of Corey and hes a tremendous prospect, he did great in his little taster of SL. He needs a bit more time this season in 1st team and then weve a hooker for the next 10 years.

He will be good for Leeds for a long time.

Spot on.
We all know Dwyer isn’t that good a hooker and is best used as an impact hooker.
To go into this season with a young lad who’s only played 10 mins in SL as starting hooker would be crazy and would be rightfully criticised by people on here.