Re: Smith out ASAP : Mon May 27, 2024 8:16 pm  

I'd like to see us look better organised too, but if players keep on dropping the ball or missing 1:1 tackles your structure is worth nothing frankly. You can't apply structure if you're inviting to opposition to attack you all game.

Be an interesting next few fixtures. If Cas beat us at home I can only imagine the crowd...

Re: Smith out ASAP : Mon May 27, 2024 9:39 pm  

Well, if we are going to recycle Rohan, the next six months could be a decent time to do it with the NRL merry-go-round.

Ultimately the players will have a lot to do with who coaches the team but - Brad Arthur would probably be my first choice. A decade of head coach experience in NRL, some very strong contacts with players too. Whether he would come to the UK when he has a lot of family commitments in Aus though.. not sure. He seems to be the kind of "father figure" coach that I think our young squad might need, maybe a little Graham Murray-esque in that regard.

Whoever we do get in, if we do replace RS, we need to back him with some money to make a couple of big signings for 2025 too.

Re: Smith out ASAP : Mon May 27, 2024 9:43 pm  

KaeruJim wrote:

Well, if we are going to recycle Rohan, the next six months could be a decent time to do it with the NRL merry-go-round.

Ultimately the players will have a lot to do with who coaches the team but - Brad Arthur would probably be my first choice. A decade of head coach experience in NRL, some very strong contacts with players too. Whether he would come to the UK when he has a lot of family commitments in Aus though.. not sure. He seems to be the kind of "father figure" coach that I think our young squad might need, maybe a little Graham Murray-esque in that regard.

Whoever we do get in, if we do replace RS, we need to back him with some money to make a couple of big signings for 2025 too.

We cannot afford anyone other than a coach with a proven track record at first grade. I know it doesn't guarantee anything, but we need to give ourselves the best possible chance of success.

Re: Smith out ASAP : Tue May 28, 2024 6:45 am  

ploinerrhino wrote:

[b][b][b][b][b][/b][/b][/b][/b][/b]Not asking for a temporary coach , there are good options available now and money talks , Rowley and Salford would not be able to turn Leeds down .

Don`t know about that as he`s just signed (last week) a 2 year extension so at the very least Salford would receive a much bigger payout. Hull FC offered him a Quarter of a Million to go East and he turned them down so money obviously isnt the issue. His kids are at A Level stage so maybe next year his arm could be twisted.

Re: Smith out ASAP : Tue May 28, 2024 7:03 am  

Early Bath wrote:

Don`t know about that as he`s just signed (last week) a 2 year extension so at the very least Salford would receive a much bigger payout. Hull FC offered him a Quarter of a Million to go East and he turned them down so money obviously isnt the issue. His kids are at A Level stage so maybe next year his arm could be twisted.

Rowley could commute from his home in Worsley to Leeds daily.

Hull is too far, so he would have to stay there overnight.

The logistics fit for Rowley signing with his family and home life, but I agree, his recent contract extension means he will cost big bucks.

Re: Smith out ASAP : Tue May 28, 2024 7:43 am  

Has Gary H written his letter to the YEP for the fans yet? No doubt mention the golden generation, stadium rebuild, covid etc. which are all incredibly stale now.

I'd imagine on Saturday there will be a fair few out on the beer for the afternoon and if Cas score first when we make an inevitable basic error it could turn nasty.

[Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino]

Re: Smith out ASAP : Tue May 28, 2024 12:57 pm  

Think it’ll become a little clearer after weekend.
Can’t see Smith leaving until end of season so we’ll get a leaving by mutual consent email and we’re going on a worldwide talent search, no stone left unturned, rhinos DNA , knows the club / knows the city / knows the milkman spiel.

We can’t be relegated so there’s zero urgency to appoint a new coach / back room team. Sad for this season but he’s already got your season ticket cash so what you going to do?

Re: Smith out ASAP : Tue May 28, 2024 1:03 pm  

Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino wrote:

Think it’ll become a little clearer after weekend.
Can’t see Smith leaving until end of season so we’ll get a leaving by mutual consent email and we’re going on a worldwide talent search, no stone left unturned, rhinos DNA , knows the club / knows the city / knows the milkman spiel.

We can’t be relegated so there’s zero urgency to appoint a new coach / back room team. Sad for this season but he’s already got your season ticket cash so what you going to do?

Spot on.

Re: Smith out ASAP : Tue May 28, 2024 1:22 pm  

I don't think that is spot on. GH will, I imagine, want Leeds to be successful, winning things again, and attracting more sponsorship and higher attendances. What he won't want is declining support and spend at the club going forwards.

I don't know why so many seem to have such a negative attitude towards the club they support - maybe it's an ingrained "us and them" mentality. My view is that GH's race may well have run its course from some time ago now, but the club itself is still amazeballs and our facilities are the best in SL by a distance. Our foundations are solid, but clearly we are missing key elements still and have been for a long time.

It's far more likely that GH and other senior figures at Leeds are hungry for success and want us to be doing much better, than the idea of them sniffing white powder off girls at the weekend while laughing at the few hundred quid you might have ponied up.

Re: Smith out ASAP : Tue May 28, 2024 1:48 pm  

KaeruJim wrote:

I don't think that is spot on. GH will, I imagine, want Leeds to be successful, winning things again, and attracting more sponsorship and higher attendances. What he won't want is declining support and spend at the club going forwards.

I don't know why so many seem to have such a negative attitude towards the club they support - maybe it's an ingrained "us and them" mentality. My view is that GH's race may well have run its course from some time ago now, but the club itself is still amazeballs and our facilities are the best in SL by a distance. Our foundations are solid, but clearly we are missing key elements still and have been for a long time.

It's far more likely that GH and other senior figures at Leeds are hungry for success and want us to be doing much better, than the idea of them sniffing white powder off girls at the weekend while laughing at the few hundred quid you might have ponied up.

I don’t have a negative attitude, I have a realistic attitude that recognises the mess we are in. It goes without saying we have the best facilities in super l league. Which makes it frustrating when you see the dross that’s served up on the field. Have some sympathy with Hethrington he appointed Smith and Smith has failed. Although I am mystified as to what he saw in Smith , highlighted by the esteemed bullseye on the bulls site.Foundations are solid , but key elements missing for a long time? You might like to explain what the key elements are that we are missing, apart from the fact several players aren’t good enough for a potential top four club. Plus the coach is out of his depth.