: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:26 am  

Saddened! wrote:

:lol: I suppose I'm a homophobe too, for arguing with you?

ahhhahahahahah

: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:37 am  

Saddened! wrote:

So, in all seriousness, forgetting the childish banter about the Fa'asavalu tackle and the WWE chest beating that followed it, how highly do you rate Mr Bailey? Higher than Fielden? Higher than Thackray? Higher than Leuleuai? Higher than Carvell? Higher than Luke Burgess? Higher than Peacock? Higher than Graham?

No one's answered this, so here goes.

Fielden: Definitely
Thackray: ditto
Leulaui: 50/50
Carvell: narrowly
Burgess: deffo, though with experience maybe Burgess will be as good/better. But maybe not.
Peacock: no
Graham: depends on the type of game. Even though we lost on friday, I'd take Bailey's showing over Graham's.

: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:38 am  

Clearwing wrote:

No one's answered this, so here goes.

Fielden: Definitely
Thackray: ditto
Leulaui: 50/50
Carvell: narrowly
Burgess: deffo, though with experience maybe Burgess will be as good/better. But maybe not.
Peacock: no
Graham: depends on the type of game. Even though we lost on friday, I'd take Bailey's showing over Graham's.

whaaaaaaaat??????

This has to be a joke post, surely

: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:46 am  

Clearwing wrote:

No one's answered this, so here goes.

Fielden: Definitely
Thackray: ditto
Leulaui: 50/50
Carvell: narrowly
Burgess: deffo, though with experience maybe Burgess will be as good/better. But maybe not.
Peacock: no
Graham: depends on the type of game. Even though we lost on friday, I'd take Bailey's showing over Graham's.

Comedy post of the year!

: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:51 am  

Clearwing wrote:

No one's answered this, so here goes.

Fielden: Definitely
Thackray: ditto
Leulaui: 50/50
Carvell: narrowly
Burgess: deffo, though with experience maybe Burgess will be as good/better. But maybe not.
Peacock: no
Graham: depends on the type of game. Even though we lost on friday, I'd take Bailey's showing over Graham's.

I suspect that most Sainst fans would have Bailey over Fa'asavalu and possibly Cayless. I would love to have Graham at Leeds but I am also very happy with Peacock, Leuluai, Bailey, Burgess and Kirke as my props and don't feel that Graham would be a worthwhile signing within the salary cap.

: Tue Mar 24, 2009 11:03 am  

x~Gilly~x wrote:

:lol: Comedy post of the year!

Glad to see it went down so well.

I'd infer from your response that you'd rate Bailey less highly than all the other props on that list. The fact that Bailey commands a place in the most successful squad of the last 5 years suggests that you're of the opinion that Tony Smith and Brian McClennan know less about RL than you do. Maybe you could explain how you arrived at that conclusion?

: Tue Mar 24, 2009 11:08 am  

Clearwing wrote:

:lol: Glad to see it went down so well.

I'd infer from your response that you'd rate Bailey less highly than all the other props on that list. The fact that Bailey commands a place in the most successful squad of the last 5 years suggests that you're of the opinion that Tony Smith and Brian McClennan know less about RL than you do. Maybe you could explain how you arrived at that conclusion?

No, it suggests there is a salary cap, and every side has to make do with it's plodders.

Why do you think Saints retained Mike Bennett for all those years?

: Tue Mar 24, 2009 11:10 am  

Fielden: Definitely
Thackray: Definitely. That's why we released him and kept bailey. D'urgh,
Leulaui: Irrelevant.
Carvell: Definitely
Burgess: Irrelevant
Peacock: Irrelevant
Graham: No.

: Tue Mar 24, 2009 11:14 am  

G1 wrote:

Fielden: Definitely
Thackray: Definitely. That's why we released him and kept bailey. D'urgh,
Leulaui: Irrelevant.
Carvell: Definitely
Burgess: Irrelevant
Peacock: Irrelevant
Graham: No.

Bailey is nowhere near as good as Carvell, but the rest of the list is about right. Thackray is the worst player of the names mentioned.

: Tue Mar 24, 2009 11:20 am  

I'm afraid anyone who take Ryan Bailey over Gareth Carvell needs their head read (unless you're taking injuries into account).

I'm not one to normally quote stats, but prop's probably the one position above others that it doesn't really lie ie, meters made, number of carries, metres per carry, tackles made.

(on this season) Bailey doesn't really show up that well on that front, not even compared to Stuart Fielden. Although it can't show some of the effect he can on the game - ie, riling the opposition.