Re: The ONLY LUFC Football Thread : Wed May 03, 2023 8:38 am  

And Orta wanted Javi to stay til the end of the season, thats why hes gone.

Sounds like he backs his decisions too much.

Re: The ONLY LUFC Football Thread : Wed May 03, 2023 8:48 am  

tad rhino wrote:

who else could they get at this stage? for me it wasn't gracia.
it's quite clear some of the players aren't fussed. they will get a move and big signing on fee.
some player obviously are giving it all. some plainly aren't

No serious coach was ever going to work with Orta hence the reason he ended up with Marsch

Some of those that are trying are simply not good enough - Ayling, Cooper, Bamford Aaronson. Add that to Meslier who has a confidence crisis. The defence looks shot - classic Cooper on Sunday for the third goal.

Re: The ONLY LUFC Football Thread : Wed May 03, 2023 11:25 am  

Jack Burton wrote:

It will all come out in the wash. We're already hearing reports of a rift between different factions in the dressing room. Reports also that the board wanted to sack Marche before the world cup and bring Emery in, but Orta threatened to resign if he was sacked. Talk about a sliding doors moment!

Yes, we held onto Marsch too long and that was down to Orta. Bad decision after bad decision...

Re: The ONLY LUFC Football Thread : Wed May 03, 2023 1:18 pm  

Hindsight is a wonderful thing.
But I do believe the win against Liverpool convinced the Board to stay with Marsch and tbh I would have thought the same then.
Gracia whilst it appeared was tactically sound he let himself down by a) sticking with Meslier for the Fulham game and onwards and b) refusing to pick Gnonto choosing to stick with Aaronssen oh and playing Harrison who cannot tackle as a LB.
Anyone with half a soccer brain could see those decisions were wrong and contributed to his downfall.
What gets me is the so called senior players like Bamford, Ayling, Cooper and Harrison moaning to the Board about Gracia yet those very same senior players have performed like Championship players at best all season.

[Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino]

Re: The ONLY LUFC Football Thread : Wed May 03, 2023 1:26 pm  

Jack Burton wrote:

It will all come out in the wash. We're already hearing reports of a rift between different factions in the dressing room. Reports also that the board wanted to sack Marche before the world cup and bring Emery in, but Orta threatened to resign if he was sacked. Talk about a sliding doors moment!

Yeah, rumours of the flashpoint was during half time against palace at home.

Weve been utter gash since.

Its the same old players completely phoning it in. Certain players should be told to pack their bags and GTFO contributing absolutely nothing to the cause except unrest.

Re: The ONLY LUFC Football Thread : Wed May 03, 2023 3:23 pm  

I was told from a well connected source there was deffo a falling out at half time of the Palace game. Also Phil Hay has mentioned the players didn't like Gracia not speaking to them when he left them out of the team etc

[Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino]

Re: The ONLY LUFC Football Thread : Wed May 03, 2023 3:26 pm  

Yeah, somethings rotten in the side.

To many conflictive rumours to piece anything credible together but interesting that they all seem to focus on certain players giving it the big "I am"

Re: The ONLY LUFC Football Thread : Wed May 03, 2023 6:52 pm  

Cracking press conference from big Sam today. Classic Allardyce. Creates headlines to take pressure off the players and was full of confidence

Re: The ONLY LUFC Football Thread : Wed May 03, 2023 7:14 pm  

Trebor1 wrote:

I was told from a well connected source there was deffo a falling out at half time of the Palace game. Also Phil Hay has mentioned the players didn't like Gracia not speaking to them when he left them out of the team etc

Beckford mentioned that Gnonto couldn`t understand why he was not getting picked when fit to play.

Re: The ONLY LUFC Football Thread : Wed May 03, 2023 7:31 pm  

Robbie keane comes in on the basis that Allardyce got on with him when they did soccer aid. Bodes well.