Re: Sam Walters : Thu Apr 27, 2023 10:43 am  

chapylad wrote:

But Walters didn`t let anyone down when he did play so not sure what the answer or problem is with Walters.

That's not entirely true in the run last season, when he made a few basic defensive errors that sometimes led to tries conceded. But would still like to see more of him than we have so far this season.

Re: Sam Walters : Thu Apr 27, 2023 10:48 am  

I’ve had doubts in the past about Walters in defence and whether had enough toughness/aggression but he has clearly been on an upward curve in last 12 months and likely to keep getting better.

How good he will be, is anyone’s guess at the moment but he performed v Saints for sure.

Given we have a lot of 2024 cap space I’d be very disappointed to lose him after we’ve got him to SL level.

It’s not as though Lisone and Sangare are the finished article either.

I may be reading too much into it but a few weeks ago Smith went on about Mik, Cam etc wanting to play for Leeds….

Re: Sam Walters : Thu Apr 27, 2023 11:04 am  

Sir Gregory ParsloeP wrote:

I may be reading too much into it but a few weeks ago Smith went on about Mik, Cam etc wanting to play for Leeds….

I took that as a dig at Leeming, mentioned the players were really happy to get their England call ups but first and foremost they want to play for Leeds and dont talk about their England ambitions in the media like others do (Leeming).

Re: Sam Walters : Thu Apr 27, 2023 3:44 pm  

I hope Walters stays he could become a very good player and he’s awkward to defend.

I don’t have a problem with how he’s been used this year, he doesn’t get in ahead of Holroyd or Oledski yet and Sangare and Lisone are much more mature physical props.

He will get chances this year but like most young players need to bide his time a bit.

Re: Sam Walters : Thu Apr 27, 2023 6:16 pm  

When he has played well he has been left out afterwards , i do not get all the Sangare hype i am afraid . Walters is a far better player and prospect

Re: Sam Walters : Thu Apr 27, 2023 7:29 pm  

ploinerrhino wrote:

When he has played well he has been left out afterwards , i do not get all the Sangare hype i am afraid . Walters is a far better player and prospect

Sangare is very big, and takes some tackling. He might not always look flashy but he takes energy out of the opposition.

Walters may well develop into the better player of the two but right now we need to pick sides to win games.

What I would say is that Walters could have had a bench spot once or twice this season when Smith has messed about carrying backs for various reasons.

Re: Sam Walters : Thu Apr 27, 2023 7:44 pm  

KaeruJim wrote:

but right now we need to pick sides to win games.

But that's not really happening with the side being picked. As you mention we need to ditch putting an outside back on the bench. Martin goes back to second row and fights it out with mcdonnell / Bentley / Gannon we need to bring in an outside back but tindall comes in for now

Re: Sam Walters : Thu Apr 27, 2023 7:47 pm  

Shabino wrote:

That’s positive, the next thing is who’s ahead of him then, and who does Smith think can do a better job in his position….?

Oledski and Holroyd the rest no better Lisone and Sangare can do about 40mins per game between them Tetavano goes through the motions still.

Re: Sam Walters : Thu Apr 27, 2023 7:48 pm  

Myler
Tindall
Mcdonald
Newman
Handley
Austin
Sinfield
Holroyd
O'connor
Oledzki
Mcdonnell/Bentley
Martin/Gannon
Smith

Johnson
Walters
Lisone
Sangare/Tetevano

Re: Sam Walters : Fri Apr 28, 2023 8:43 pm  

Seth wrote:

But that's not really happening with the side being picked. As you mention we need to ditch putting an outside back on the bench. Martin goes back to second row and fights it out with mcdonnell / Bentley / Gannon we need to bring in an outside back but tindall comes in for now

I dunno the balance isn’t quite right yet is it?

I think the main reason we’re struggling is the spine. The pack could be improved but we are miles better than we have been for years up front.

Walters could be very good as he fills out, but he can be daft and who knows what he’s like behind the scenes / around the club.

I am hoping this is a storm in a teacup and he’ll end up staying; Tet is almost certain to leave next season and possibly one or two others in the pack. Walters does have an opportunity.