[Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino]

Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:46 pm  

Getting the sinking feeling that this Agar as a "stabilizer" has all the hallmarks of Sinfield picking the team, tactics, basically being in charge in all but name and Agar just doing the "coaching" and media or in other words a convenient bullet sponge for management.

Similar to what a LUFC had when the mad Italian was in charge at Elland road and infact what we were doing when Sinfield came back in after Mac was sacked.

Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Fri Jun 07, 2019 1:26 am  

Charlie Sheen wrote:

What's Geoff Toovey up to these days?

Working for Fox Sports Rugby League Channel being on a couple of programmes. At every opportunity always comments that he would love to get back into coaching!

Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Fri Jun 07, 2019 5:28 am  

Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino wrote:

Getting the sinking feeling that this Agar as a "stabilizer" has all the hallmarks of Sinfield picking the team, tactics, basically being in charge in all but name and Agar just doing the "coaching" and media or in other words a convenient bullet sponge for management.

Similar to what a LUFC had when the mad Italian was in charge at Elland road and infact what we were doing when Sinfield came back in after Mac was sacked.

Yep, Extended two contracts, got rid of an International centre & signed a 2nd Row while not having a coach in place. Not saying these decisions are right or wrong but for the next 2 or 3 years the new coach will be stuck with Sinfields team where as a coach in place could have advised if these players suited his prefered style of play or if he could get a tune out of them.

(For Agar, see Hockaday)

Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:02 am  

Well its interesting to see Tony Smith joing HullKR as Head Coach for Rest of Season . Then Danny McGuire takes over as head of recruitment ! If Smith Stays on will he have a say in McGuires signings ?

Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:45 am  

I'd rather have Tony Smith to the end of the season than Agar. What has Agar ever produced as a senior coach? Smith for the remainder of 22019 and Powell for 2020 would have brought some optimism to the club, however we remain in the dark like mushrooms. How the hell did the club make such a massive mess of the post Peacock et.al. transition?

Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:01 am  

midnight cowboy wrote:

Yep, Extended two contracts, got rid of an International centre & signed a 2nd Row while not having a coach in place. Not saying these decisions are right or wrong but for the next 2 or 3 years the new coach will be stuck with Sinfields team where as a coach in place could have advised if these players suited his prefered style of play or if he could get a tune out of them.

(For Agar, see Hockaday)

It's not ideal to be negotiating contracts without a permanent coaching appointment but people would moan if they sat on their hands and waited with the current poop shower. If it is Powell (or someone currently in post) who is due to come in we can't wait to recruit. I'd only have given Walker 3 or max 4 years but apart from that I'm happy with the outputs of the last week.

Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:05 am  

ant1 wrote:

I'd rather have Tony Smith to the end of the season than Agar

Agree. Much much better

Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:13 am  

Trebor1 wrote:

Agree. Much much better

He may be a better coach but I disagree it would have been better for us. Agar whether you like him or not is part of the Rhinos staff and will continue to be when the new coach is put in place. Chopping and changing constantly will not do the team any good and if TS wasn't the long term target for us what good would him coming in for 6 months do?

I do not want Agar as a long term head coach but he has got quite a lot of experience, apparently is well respected by players and does off a tiny but of stability within the squad/set up.

If we were going with TS long term that wold have been different.

Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:16 am  

christopher wrote:

He may be a better coach but I disagree it would have been better for us. Agar whether you like him or not is part of the Rhinos staff and will continue to be when the new coach is put in place. Chopping and changing constantly will not do the team any good and if TS wasn't the long term target for us what good would him coming in for 6 months do?

I do not want Agar as a long term head coach but he has got quite a lot of experience, apparently is well respected by players and does off a tiny but of stability within the squad/set up.

If we were going with TS long term that wold have been different.

Agree with this. I don't know if any bridges are still burned from last time either - of all people KS would know whether TS would be a fit for Leeds right now.
They're doing the right thing; changing the style and messages every five minutes is not going to help a group of players who are already struggling.
The next coach needs to be the right coach for some time.
Also would think that Merrin becomes captain when Kal goes, he seems the natural choice.

Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:55 am  

Agar offers nothing other than been a stop gap he failed as a 1st Team Coach.
Its ridiculous that we are signing/retaining players with no Head Coach in place irresoective if we as fans see those signings as good or not.
For me we should have a new Coach by now they've had plenty of time to interview & do the due dilligence the delays just make it more of a farce & give the new incumbent less & less say in the Squad for 2020 which in turn will be less an attractive proposition.