Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour Thread V2 : Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:32 pm  

KaeruJim wrote:

He wants to shape the squad and the Leeds culture as he wants it, and he needs a coach who will buy into that vision closely. That isn’t every coach’s idea of a good time when it’s their reputation and job on the line - it’s less control than some would require.
I certainly don’t imagine KS is keen to repeat the Furner experience and so Agar seems the default choice.
Two new players in key positions on Sunday, will be very interesting to see if it helps.

Totally agree Jim.

Some are missing the important and often subtle points of what is going on here.

Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour Thread V2 : Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:34 pm  

some are missing we have a terrible coach.safe pair of hands maybe, does as he is told but still awful

Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour Thread V2 : Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:35 pm  

KaeruJim wrote:

Guys I really feel we need a dose of positivity around here.

I'm must admit, I was always ok with the Lunt thing, I can see why that is happening.

I wasn't that pleased with Lui, good player but not what we need.

But now they have gone through, and with Tui going, I feel like the club are being proactive and innovative in what they are doing.

Will everyone be happy, never, but the club are definitely trying.

Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour Thread V2 : Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:35 pm  

Fallon wrote:

Totally agree Jim.

Some are missing the important and often subtle points of what is going on here.

I think some are just underestimating what a difficult job it is trying to rebuild a side with 3 big limiting factors - Relegation threat, Salary Cap and Quota spaces.

People wanted a clear out and that is what is happening, but its a juggling act with those 3 factors involved

Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour Thread V2 : Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:41 pm  

Fallon wrote:

I'm must admit, I was always ok with the Lunt thing, I can see why that is happening.

I wasn't that pleased with Lui, good player but not what we need.

But now they have gone through, and with Tui going, I feel like the club are being proactive and innovative in what they are doing.

Will everyone be happy, never, but the club are definitely trying.

Agree I was not particularly happy with lui signing, but will hold my hands up much happier now, the main positive of the deal for me is getting tui out of the club

Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour Thread V2 : Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:49 pm  

it's not the signings or getting rid of dead wood.
we need a top coach. not a poor coach who is a "safe and steady "

Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour Thread V2 : Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:59 pm  

tad rhino wrote:

it's not the signings or getting rid of dead wood.
we need a top coach. not a poor coach who is a "safe and steady "

I don't disagree with the sentiment Tad but it's just a constant merry go round.

We wanted the club to spend money, we got two marquee signings.
We wanted a better pack, the club went out and got players (mixed bag admittedly)
We wanted better halfbacks, the club got Lui and ditched Tui (hey that rhymes).

Now it's all about the new coach. The club can only do so much at any one time.

Agar is not a poor coach, he has coached at a high level and international level for a number of years. The pool of better coaches that would want the job will be very thin indeed. Also, there is nothing wrong with being steady if you have a good squad to be steady with. The problem is we have a poor (but slowly improving) squad and an interim coach.

Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour Thread V2 : Wed Jun 26, 2019 5:37 pm  

Fallon wrote:

I don't disagree with the sentiment Tad but it's just a constant merry go round.

We wanted the club to spend money, we got two marquee signings.
We wanted a better pack, the club went out and got players (mixed bag admittedly)
We wanted better halfbacks, the club got Lui and ditched Tui (hey that rhymes).

Now it's all about the new coach. The club can only do so much at any one time.

Agar is not a poor coach, he has coached at a high level and international level for a number of years. The pool of better coaches that would want the job will be very thin indeed. Also, there is nothing wrong with being steady if you have a good squad to be steady with. The problem is we have a poor (but slowly improving) squad and an interim coach.

Ask any Hull or wakefield supporter if agar is a poor coach

Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour Thread V2 : Wed Jun 26, 2019 6:16 pm  

Jake the Peg wrote:

Ask any Hull or wakefield supporter if agar is a poor coach

I’m sure if and when the right man becomes available, we’ll take a look. Who would we take right now if not Agar?
Powell maybe, but that won’t be before 2020 and maybe not then either.
I like the sound of Demetriou but it would be too risky an appointment in the circumstances.
The available Aus coaches are available for a reason. I’m sure there are some technically decent ones but we need more than that to truly rebuild the club. We need a Murray or a Smith type again for me - a real solid character as well as technically good coach. Not too many of those about.

Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour Thread V2 : Wed Jun 26, 2019 6:17 pm  

Jake the Peg wrote:

Ask any Hull or wakefield supporter if agar is a poor coach

Define poor?

Wakefield have been relegation/mid table fodder for decades. Hull have been inconsistent for years. His win % at hull was 45% and Radford's is 51%, really not that much difference.

A really really top coach can have a great influence on a team but they are few and far between and none are knocking on our door.

The important part of the equation is a talented squad with some leaders thrown in. The coach is important sure, but secondary.