FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!

   WWW.RLFANS.COM • View topic - 2022 | Injuries & Suspensions
RankPostsTeam
Club Captain3207No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 06 20178 years84th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
2nd Nov 24 10:4610th Oct 24 11:39LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: 2022 | Injuries & Suspensions : Wed Jul 13, 2022 6:16 pm  
Loiner at large wrote:
As everyone said fantastic game and not condoning violence but a very different approach in Aus. When the world cup starts a lot of stuff copping bans currently in superleague will be overlooked when Australia and NZ play

And rightly so!
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach5009
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 11 200618 years200th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
25th Nov 24 04:2822nd Nov 24 19:49LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Signature
"...To those people that wrote this team off...
to all those that criticised this team...
tonight's for you"

Sir Kevin Sinfield

Re: 2022 | Injuries & Suspensions : Wed Jul 13, 2022 6:17 pm  
Harry Newman has been unsuccessful in his appeal against the extra game of his suspension and will miss this Saturdays game at
Toulouse
RankPostsTeam
Club Captain3207No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 06 20178 years84th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
2nd Nov 24 10:4610th Oct 24 11:39LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: 2022 | Injuries & Suspensions : Wed Jul 13, 2022 6:35 pm  
The Biffs Back wrote:
Harry Newman has been unsuccessful in his appeal against the extra game of his suspension and will miss this Saturdays game at
Toulouse

No surprise. I’m amazed the club wasted everyone’s time!
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Board Member11377
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 26 200222 years190th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
13th Nov 24 12:0830th Aug 24 09:23LINK
Milestone Posts
10000
15000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Much too far South

Re: 2022 | Injuries & Suspensions : Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:15 pm  
The Biffs Back wrote:
Harry Newman has been unsuccessful in his appeal against the extra game of his suspension and will miss this Saturdays game at
Toulouse


Strange - Leeds should appeal that.
RankPostsTeam
Fringe Player882No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 17 20223 years97th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
24th Nov 24 17:1115th Nov 24 17:56LINK
Milestone Posts
500
1000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: 2022 | Injuries & Suspensions : Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:23 pm  
HucknallLoiner wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong but in the 1990's I don't remember the players chasing down a kicker making regular contact with the kicker after they have kicked. I'm sure there was the odd one but it seems that nowadays kickers are hit very often and I'll be honest I don't buy this being committed to the tackle line because if they were committed surely at some point they would make contact before the kick. For me it's a deliberate ploy to put the kicker off but without any real intention of actually charging the ball down or making a tackle and leaves the potential to injure a vulnerable player that no longer has the ball and is often on one foot. Although if the RFL are wanting to take this out of the game why don't they just say so and make it clear?


I think in part it’s about stopping the kicker putting everyone else back onside by chasing through.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach3092No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 26 200619 years82nd
OnlineLast PostLast Page
10th Mar 23 22:1119th Feb 23 21:41LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Signature
"Brian McDermott, with a wry smile, nods when asked if he remembers a specific incident which made him realise he was a prick. 'I do', he murmurs."

Re: 2022 | Injuries & Suspensions : Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:27 pm  
FearTheVee wrote:
Strange - Leeds should appeal that.

The club is very certain that the appeal wasn't frivolous. But I doubt they really expected to get much out of the system as it's currently composed.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Board Member11377
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 26 200222 years190th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
13th Nov 24 12:0830th Aug 24 09:23LINK
Milestone Posts
10000
15000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Much too far South

Re: 2022 | Injuries & Suspensions : Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:31 pm  
The Ghost of '99 wrote:
The club is very certain that the appeal wasn't frivolous. But I doubt they really expected to get much out of the system as it's currently composed.


The club can think what it likes - the problem it has it that it’s player pleaded not guilty to something he was plainly guilty of and then they appealed it.

Take the Leeds slant out of it and I think you’d agree it was a frivolous appeal. There were fans on here admitting as such before the first appeal was held.

Not a good episode for Leeds and some poor decision making.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach3092No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 26 200619 years82nd
OnlineLast PostLast Page
10th Mar 23 22:1119th Feb 23 21:41LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Signature
"Brian McDermott, with a wry smile, nods when asked if he remembers a specific incident which made him realise he was a prick. 'I do', he murmurs."

Re: 2022 | Injuries & Suspensions : Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:42 pm  
FearTheVee wrote:
The club can think what it likes - the problem it has it that it’s player pleaded not guilty to something he was plainly guilty of and then they appealed it.

Take the Leeds slant out of it and I think you’d agree it was a frivolous appeal. There were fans on here admitting as such before the first appeal was held.

Not a good episode for Leeds and some poor decision making.
I'm just telling you what i've heard from the club - which is basically that they had evidence of similar incidents that weren't given this treatment therefore how could drawing that point out be frivolous.

The two match ban was reasonable from my point of view in its own right. But it was unreasonable in the context of previous incidents.
RankPostsTeam
First Team Player1252No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 15 20213 years34th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
22nd Nov 24 07:1512th Nov 24 03:15LINK
Milestone Posts
1000
2500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: 2022 | Injuries & Suspensions : Wed Jul 13, 2022 11:58 pm  
I don't think the appeal was frivolous at all. The original appeal might have had little chance of succeeding, but Leeds clearly didn't just go in and say 'its not fair, reduce the ban' - they put together a case with some evidence of from other games. They then appealed the description of the original appeal as frivolous and the consequent additional game ban.

If the panel is going to apply this sort of thing it should be very clear and upfront, as it is in the NRL - 2 games if you plead guilty, 3 games if you fight and lose the case. No adding extra games on post appeal. That makes crystal clear to everyone where they stand. At the moment the disciplinary puts some of that out but then has this additional right to extend bans. Its utter kangaroo court territory.

Note here I'm not saying the original ban was too short. I am saying that clubs should be allowed to put in defences and not have them rejected as 'frivolous' if they genuinely believe there is a case and provide evidence to back that up. A perfectly reasonable outcome from the original appeal would have been that the ban was upheld despite whatever evidence Leeds produced. Or, if the system was as in the NRL at least Leeds and Newman would have known in advance that fighting the charge could lead to an extra game. They may well not have done so if that was the case.
RankPostsTeam
First Team Player1518
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 26 20204 years42nd
OnlineLast PostLast Page
22nd Nov 24 14:4725th Nov 24 09:06LINK
Milestone Posts
1000
2500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: 2022 | Injuries & Suspensions : Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:50 am  
FearTheVee wrote:
The club can think what it likes - the problem it has it that it’s player pleaded not guilty to something he was plainly guilty of and then they appealed it.

Take the Leeds slant out of it and I think you’d agree it was a frivolous appeal. There were fans on here admitting as such before the first appeal was held.

Not a good episode for Leeds and some poor decision making.


The 2 game ban was accepted.
This appeal was against the additional game given for the previous appeal.
They were trying to demonstrate that the previous appeal was not frivolous.
PreviousNext

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: ArthurClues, Jack Burton, malcadele, Seth and 192 guests

REPLY

Subject: 
Message:
   
Please note using apple style emoji's can result in posting failures.
Use the FULL EDITOR to better format content or upload images, be notified of replies etc...

Return to Leeds Rhinos


RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
3m
Salford
Gaz3376
31
4m
Accounts
Miserybusine
138
6m
Film game
Boss Hog
5698
11m
Pre Season - 2025
HU8HFC
185
22m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40753
23m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Huddersfield
4035
25m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63246
25m
Squad 2025
Miserybusine
64
48m
Salford placed in special measures
PopTart
99
50m
Ground Improvements
REDWHITEANDB
172
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
47s
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63246
48s
Pre Season - 2025
HU8HFC
185
48s
Squad 2025
Miserybusine
64
48s
Salford placed in special measures
PopTart
99
54s
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Bent&Bon
6
55s
Leeds away first up
FIL
50
55s
How many games will we win
Spookisback
31
57s
2024
REDWHITEANDB
14
58s
Spirit of the Rhinos
MrPotatoHead
1
1m
Transfer Talk V5
Simmo71
506
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Spirit of the Rhinos
MrPotatoHead
1
TODAY
Mike Ogunwole
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Bailey Dawson
Wanderer
1
TODAY
2024
REDWHITEANDB
14
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
Spookisback
31
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Bent&Bon
6
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
6
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
Gaz3376
31
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
FIL
50
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
exiledrhino
30
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Big lads mat
22
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
994
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
613
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1345
England's Women Demolish The W..
1173
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1408
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1201
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1454
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1999
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2202
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2450
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
2012
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2252
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2723
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2146
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2220
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds - Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield - Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
Sat 8th Mar
SL
17:30
Catalans-Leeds
Sun 9th Mar
SL
17:30
Warrington - Wakefield
SL
17:30
Wigan-Huddersfield
Thu 20th Mar
SL
20:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Fri 21st Mar
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Warrington
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
3m
Salford
Gaz3376
31
4m
Accounts
Miserybusine
138
6m
Film game
Boss Hog
5698
11m
Pre Season - 2025
HU8HFC
185
22m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40753
23m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Huddersfield
4035
25m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63246
25m
Squad 2025
Miserybusine
64
48m
Salford placed in special measures
PopTart
99
50m
Ground Improvements
REDWHITEANDB
172
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
47s
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63246
48s
Pre Season - 2025
HU8HFC
185
48s
Squad 2025
Miserybusine
64
48s
Salford placed in special measures
PopTart
99
54s
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Bent&Bon
6
55s
Leeds away first up
FIL
50
55s
How many games will we win
Spookisback
31
57s
2024
REDWHITEANDB
14
58s
Spirit of the Rhinos
MrPotatoHead
1
1m
Transfer Talk V5
Simmo71
506
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Spirit of the Rhinos
MrPotatoHead
1
TODAY
Mike Ogunwole
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Bailey Dawson
Wanderer
1
TODAY
2024
REDWHITEANDB
14
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
Spookisback
31
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Bent&Bon
6
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
6
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
Gaz3376
31
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
FIL
50
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
exiledrhino
30
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Big lads mat
22
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
994
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
613
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1345
England's Women Demolish The W..
1173
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1408
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1201
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1454
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1999
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2202
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2450
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
2012
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2252
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2723
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2146
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2220


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!