Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:30 am  

I'm a little stuck here. For me, a coach coaches. A coach gets the players on the training area and shows them how they want the game played. A coach gets what he wants out of the players. For me, Graham Murray was a perfect example of this.

A manager, manages. They look after the discipline, conduct, availability, timetabling, organisation, press commitments, the day to day running of the team that allows the Coach 100% bandwidth to Coach the team.

A Director sits above these two and Directs operations, makes sure sufficient resources are available for the Coach and Manager to do their jobs. A Director can be Financial, Operational, People, Marketing, etc etc. In this case Rugby.

I have never seen this not be the case. GH was Director, there was always a Manager, and always a coach.
It seems now that GH has separated his role of effectively MD to allow him bandwidth to fill Caddick's responsibilities on the board. Is Sinfield the right person to fill what effectively is a role for someone to figurehead a process that up until now was working very well, his Masters in Sports Business would suggest so. His experiences similar.

I would suggest time will tell. BUT. To quote G1 (in a nutshell) from a decade ago when Leeds were struggling and recovered to finish 5th then win the GF, twice. If Leeds are there or thereabouts come October, this thread will be a distant memory.

Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Tue Jun 04, 2019 1:24 pm  

So, the following coaches are available:

Flannagan
Griffin
Wane
Marshall
Sheens
Tony Smith
Agar
Justin Morgan

Some good options there.

Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Tue Jun 04, 2019 1:34 pm  

Charlie Sheen wrote:

So, the following coaches are available:

Flannagan
Griffin
Wane
Marshall
Sheens
Tony Smith
Agar
Justin Morgan

Some good options there.

If we are looking to advance get back to the top, then we can eliminate Wane, Marshall, Sheens, Agar, and probably Smith off that list as head coach.

Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Tue Jun 04, 2019 2:17 pm  

Gotcha wrote:

If we are looking to advance get back to the top, then we can eliminate Wane, Marshall, Sheens, Agar, and probably Smith off that list as head coach.

Disagree on Wane. Others agree

Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Tue Jun 04, 2019 2:24 pm  

I've no idea what the situation is with Flannagan but any coach who can win the G.F. with the Sharkies must be really good.

I don't know what Sinfield would make of him though.

Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:47 pm  

Sheens negotiating a release from hull kr to take up a coaching offer

Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:05 pm  

Flanagan was a bit like Brian McDermott in that although he won the comp I know quite a few sharks fans who didn't like the way they played under him. Even winning the comp didn't make him that popular.

Also you cannot ignore his negligence (at best) in the rogue drug program at the sharks, and his subsequent breathtaking arrogance towards his ban which led to him getting fired.

I wouldn't be upset if he became our coach, but there are fairly big reasons why he's available.

Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:27 pm  

BrisbaneRhino wrote:

Flanagan was a bit like Brian McDermott in that although he won the comp I know quite a few sharks fans who didn't like the way they played under him. Even winning the comp didn't make him that popular.

Also you cannot ignore his negligence (at best) in the rogue drug program at the sharks, and his subsequent breathtaking arrogance towards his ban which led to him getting fired.

I wouldn't be upset if he became our coach, but there are fairly big reasons why he's available.

I just think it’s the wrong choice for Leeds when we’re trying to rebuild the culture for lasting success again.
Have to say I think Powell would be great, he gets his halves working and the team playing as a unit.
Demetriou seems highly rated but would be seen as risky in our current state.
Watson’s done a good job on limited resources but I think Leeds is s completely different fish.
Holbrook seems happy at Saints (and yet again they have out-recruited us there).
When Murray and Smith came in, they had a quality of character about them and that suits Leeds, especially with a young crop coming through again.

Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Wed Jun 05, 2019 4:32 am  

Said it before, although not suggested he should be coach, but Woolford at Huddersfield, with the resources, seems to have done just as good a job as Smith did. That is one poor squad on paper, and look at the turnaround he did.

For me I have said Griffin since before McDermott left, and stick by that. I do think Furner had he been backed would have took us forward long term, but Griffin is the perfect one for me.

Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:49 am  

Can't see Flanagan here,his image is well tarnished.Agree with Woolford,doing a fine job