[Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino]

Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Fri May 31, 2019 3:29 pm  

TBF to Sinfield, he walked into an absolute poop-show last year, a team bereft of ideas or function. I guess when in that situation you go with what you know, tried and tested, hence the reliance of older team mates and ideas and that hasn't worked out due to unforeseen injuries and a squad that is past it and everyone agrees is now ripe for breaking up and starting again with.

Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Fri May 31, 2019 5:39 pm  

I doubt Sinfield will take us too far forward. Not because of a lack of experience but because he is, and always has been, a perfectionist. His leadership qualities are often associated with those of JP though in fact they were quite different. Faced with this situation, JP would be too bloody minded to give in; KS is more likely to re-offer his resignation if he's unable to turn things around. Not because he's weak-willed, I just don't think he'll be able to cope mentally if things remain as they are.

Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Fri May 31, 2019 5:47 pm  

christopher wrote:

Ablett and Crosby being injured is hardly Sinfields fault.

Lolohea wasn’ T Sinfields signing, Albert will most likely be on a tiny wage and was just a body to sign whilst we were short on numbers.

Tetaining Lowes was a mistake and his biggest mistake Was Furner a mistake he admitted to and even offered to leave because of it.

Sinfield needs jusdging further down the line IMO and we don’t know what other thimgs he has implemented in the club which could turn out to be a success

Ablett was finished BEFORE his mate gave him a new deal & Crosby was playing battered before he was offered a deal as well no excuse whatsoever KS signed both sick notes.
Lolohea was a Sinfield signing as for Albert been on low wages whatever it is its too much.

Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Fri May 31, 2019 5:48 pm  

Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino wrote:

TBF to Sinfield, he walked into an absolute poop-show last year, a team bereft of ideas or function. I guess when in that situation you go with what you know, tried and tested, hence the reliance of older team mates and ideas and that hasn't worked out due to unforeseen injuries and a squad that is past it and everyone agrees is now ripe for breaking up and starting again with.

That theory has plenty of weight but that tried & teseted was already busted broken and ready for the nearest skip to still sign them is negligence imo.

Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Fri May 31, 2019 6:31 pm  

RHINO-MARK wrote:

That theory has plenty of weight but that tried & teseted was already busted broken and ready for the nearest skip to still sign them is negligence imo.

Let me just point out again that we don't know what terms the old guard have agreed to on salary to go around one last year. I doubt they are on as much now as they were during the title-winning years (could be wrong).
I'd like to see JJB in particular take a back office role in media/pastoral support next year.
Again, I imagine there will be a significant clear out for 2020 and it's from then really that we can get a clearer picture of where Sinfield want to take the club.

[Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino]

Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Fri May 31, 2019 6:34 pm  

Exactly, the players had given up playing for Mac for what reasons anyone can guess, theres plenty of theories, they then brought in Sinfield to steady the ship and instantly he noticed that "standards had slipped" and the systems were "broken", so he went back to his "tried and tested" routine, that didnt work either, they players showed barely a murmur, we flopped across the line defeated and broken. We brought in Furner to begin a three year opus to re-write the Rhinos and yet again, the players have decided not to respond so out goes Furner. Somewhere along the line, a cancer has grown at the heart of this club, until it is cut out, we wont heal and we wont progress.

Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Fri May 31, 2019 6:46 pm  

IMO the majority of poster's on this forum agree that the squad at Leeds is nowhere near being good enough to challenge for trophies and is at best capable of avoiding relegation.(As has been the case for 3 out of the past 4 seasons)

If I had been appointed into the D.O.R role with the club I would have said that upon looking at the retained squad list that it would take at least 3 to 4 years to get back to where the club needs to be due to having too many mediocre players tied down under contract,and that some players may have to be retained to bridge some gaps until the desired players can be signed,Especially with a salary cap in place.

We don't know the salary cap values of any players employed by the club or what any prospective player wants in order to join us, so IMO Sinny has been left a bloody big mess to sort out

With this in mind I am happy to give our current D.O.R the same time frame that I would have wanted, otherwise I would be termed as a hypocrite or perhaps having the benefit of hindsight to have picked fault with his decisions

Mistakes have clearly been made since Sinny returned in his role although IMO we have to trust his judgement and hope that his 3/4 year plan is going to bring the quality of our squad back to challenging for all of the trophies once again

Hindsight is a wonderful thing and at the time that Sinny appointed Furner,he was a very popular choice on here,although not everyone's first pick,he was in most posters first 3 choices for the role.

I'm keeping the faith that Sinny will get it right within the next 3/4 seasons

Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Fri May 31, 2019 7:32 pm  

The Biffs Back wrote:

IMO the majority of poster's on this forum agree that the squad at Leeds is nowhere near being good enough to challenge for trophies and is at best capable of avoiding relegation.(As has been the case for 3 out of the past 4 seasons)

If I had been appointed into the D.O.R role with the club I would have said that upon looking at the retained squad list that it would take at least 3 to 4 years to get back to where the club needs to be due to having too many mediocre players tied down under contract,and that some players may have to be retained to bridge some gaps until the desired players can be signed,Especially with a salary cap in place.

We don't know the salary cap values of any players employed by the club or what any prospective player wants in order to join us, so IMO Sinny has been left a bloody big mess to sort out

With this in mind I am happy to give our current D.O.R the same time frame that I would have wanted, otherwise I would be termed as a hypocrite or perhaps having the benefit of hindsight to have picked fault with his decisions

Mistakes have clearly been made since Sinny returned in his role although IMO we have to trust his judgement and hope that his 3/4 year plan is going to bring the quality of our squad back to challenging for all of the trophies once again

Hindsight is a wonderful thing and at the time that Sinny appointed Furner,he was a very popular choice on here,although not everyone's first pick,he was in most posters first 3 choices for the role.

I'm keeping the faith that Sinny will get it right within the next 3/4 seasons

Whilst I don't necessarily disagree with most of what you have written there is no a cat in hells chance Sinny will be given 3/4 years to turn the club around. Significant improvements will be expected next season.

Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Fri May 31, 2019 8:26 pm  

Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino wrote:

Exactly, the players had given up playing for Mac for what reasons anyone can guess, theres plenty of theories, they then brought in Sinfield to steady the ship and instantly he noticed that "standards had slipped" and the systems were "broken", so he went back to his "tried and tested" routine, that didnt work either, they players showed barely a murmur, we flopped across the line defeated and broken. We brought in Furner to begin a three year opus to re-write the Rhinos and yet again, the players have decided not to respond so out goes Furner. Somewhere along the line, a cancer has grown at the heart of this club, until it is cut out, we wont heal and we wont progress.

It’s really hard to say. In actual fact I’m not sure the cancer is an attitudinal thing - although there will be a couple of less good eggs in the nest somewhere.

It’s not really that complicated; the current players are just not good enough, and we’re flogging dead horses.

The good news is that replacing 4 or so players would make a big difference immediately; IF they are the right quality in the necessary positions (plus the right coach of course). We should have a large chunk of salary cap coming free for 2020 as long as we don’t cop out of some necessary decisions.

Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Sat Jun 01, 2019 4:46 pm  

Marty Grrrrrrrrrr! wrote:

Sinfield "were behind Agar and need a period of stabiity" Fans "were getting Wane then"

GH "Agar will have to the end of the season to give the club time to assess" Fans "Shane Flanagan is getting on a plane then"

Sutcliffe "its been good under Agar and it will be good to work with him for the rest of the season" Fans "Powell is gonna quit Cas this week"

JP "the club needs stability and Agar will give that" Fans "so its Ian Watson then and it will be this week"

What the hell is wrong with our fan base????

is the amount of people posting on here the fan base or a tiny fraction of thousands?