Re: SL GF | St Helens (Old Trafford) : Thu Sep 22, 2022 1:20 pm  

ArthurClues wrote:

I do care and I don't think anything is rigged. I do believe that the MRP is not fit for purpose, to put it mildly.

Agreed. Let's retain some sense of perspective here. We don't want Gary turning to the RFL asking for the equivalent of our two points back if Knowles scores the winning try in the GF!

Re: SL GF | St Helens (Old Trafford) : Thu Sep 22, 2022 1:23 pm  

Once were Loiners wrote:

I'd have Walters in the 17 as he's a big unit. We've been blown away up front by Sts in most recent games and I don't think we can afford to have periods with too many small forwards on the field.

Agree. Saints have won so many games against us in the first 15 mins and while they don't exactly fizzle out after that they do become more manageable. Got to compete in the middle of the field from the off. My team would be:
Myler
Briscoe
Hardaker
Sutcliffe
Handley (if fit)
Smith
Austin
Oledzki
O’Connor
Prior
Bentley
Martin
Tetavano

Subs
Leeming
Thompson
Walters
Donaldson

Re: SL GF | St Helens (Old Trafford) : Thu Sep 22, 2022 1:35 pm  

ArthurClues wrote:

Agree. Saints have won so many games against us in the first 15 mins and while they don't exactly fizzle out after that they do become more manageable. Got to compete in the middle of the field from the off. My team would be:
Myler
Briscoe
Hardaker
Sutcliffe
Handley (if fit)
Smith
Austin
Oledzki
O’Connor
Prior
Bentley
Martin
Tetavano

Subs
Leeming
Thompson
Walters
Donaldson

I concur

Re: SL GF | St Helens (Old Trafford) : Thu Sep 22, 2022 1:44 pm  

Neruda wrote:

he 2nd appeal should never have been allowed

I said this about the Martin one before you played us, and his ban was a joke compared to this one.

The MRP give their verdict and then you appeal. After that, you take the punishment.

Another level of appeal just adds the possibility of this happening which makes the MRP look like a joke (their decisions are sometimes but they should be able to then enforce them) and where does it actually stop? If Knowles was still banned does he get another appeal until he's happy?

Re: SL GF | St Helens (Old Trafford) : Thu Sep 22, 2022 1:45 pm  

Guys, can anybody offer me some advice please. Me and my other half are coming down from Edinburgh for a long weekend, and are basing ourselves in the Salford Quays area ready for the game on Sat.

I know normally, there is good banter between rugby league fans generally, but I am aware of the dislike of Manchester and Leeds. Will it be safe to wear Rhinos colours all weekend, or should I just wear them on the Saturday. It’s not something that even occurred to me, until somebody else mentioned it, so don’t want to cause unnecessary grief. I know just wearing colours on Saturday is the safe option, but I enjoy wearing the rhinos colours my 3/4 down a season to watch the games.

Or is it something not to even worry about?

Re: SL GF | St Helens (Old Trafford) : Thu Sep 22, 2022 1:50 pm  

Daftie wrote:

Guys, can anybody offer me some advice please. Me and my other half are coming down from Edinburgh for a long weekend, and are basing ourselves in the Salford Quays area ready for the game on Sat.

I know normally, there is good banter between rugby league fans generally, but I am aware of the dislike of Manchester and Leeds. Will it be safe to wear Rhinos colours all weekend, or should I just wear them on the Saturday. It’s not something that even occurred to me, until somebody else mentioned it, so don’t want to cause unnecessary grief. I know just wearing colours on Saturday is the safe option, but I enjoy wearing the rhinos colours my 3/4 down a season to watch the games.

Or is it something not to even worry about?

I wouldn't worry about it in the slightest. Wear your colours with pride, you may get some banter but you're inviting that by wearing your colours.
Let me put it this way, I would wear my Leeds shirt there every day without a worry. Leeds United shirt, different story

Re: SL GF | St Helens (Old Trafford) : Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:00 pm  

This is how id go. Probably toughest team to pick this season but I reckon they can get the job done.

33. Zak Hardaker
20. Tom Briscoe
12. Rhyse Martin
4. Liam Sutcliffe

5. Ash Handley
 (Tindall if not fit)
6. Blake Austin
16. Richie Myler

8. Mikolaj Oledzki
24. Jarrod O’Connor

10. Matt Prior

11. James Bentley

13. Zane Tetevano

17. Cameron Smith


Subs
19. Bodene Thompson

22. Sam Walters

25. James Donaldson
9. Kruise Leeming

Missing out
14. Brad Dwyer

29. Liam Tindall
27. Muizz Mustapha
32. Jack Sinfield

Re: SL GF | St Helens (Old Trafford) : Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:01 pm  

The Ghost of '99 wrote:

Good grief,t I think you've finally understood why this has very quickly become such a huge scandal.

Not really, but I do understand that you don't have a clue what you're talking about

Re: SL GF | St Helens (Old Trafford) : Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:13 pm  

I`m not so sure it is a huge scandal especially outside the rugby league world.
But it is a huge mess up by the Panel for allowing a technicality to sour the outcome should Saints win.
Knowles is a great player and it would have helped our cause for sure if he was banned.
Just like us having Sezer out which helps Saints.
Let`s face it we didn`t expect to win on Saturday and we now have our excuses ready if we do lose and for once it might not be the refs fault.
With a bit of luck both Welsby and Knowles will see red on the day
Knowing our luck Knowles will score a late try to take it into golden point and Welsby will kick the one to win it.

Re: SL GF | St Helens (Old Trafford) : Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:28 pm  

christopher wrote:

Rod Studd's summary on twitter is 'interesting'

Basically Saints said these holds are used in Judo and by the Police so it's all fine.

The more interesting part is that the second appeal judiciary didn't rule on the actual incident just the first appeal and threw the appeal out now surely that should actually mean a retrial rather than throwing it out, and throwing the appeal out should surely mean that the original summary from the MRP should stand?

I didn't think they could make this look worse, but they've managed it.

Nah the first appeal panel agreed with the assessment that the arm wasn't taken into an unnatural range of motion which was their mistake really. You can't both agree with that and uphold the original ban because the ban was dependent on that fact. Their own verdict actually eradicated Knowles' guilt when it came to the charge levied at him, hence it was overturned. They can't just change the charge