Re: 2022 | Injuries & Suspensions : Mon Jul 11, 2022 7:20 pm  

Rhino at work wrote:

I assume it's at 24:05 on the Sky coverage as the RFL minutes talk about 25:15 OPTA timings. To most of us a 2 match ban seems harsh but it's now way past the point where the players just have to get it into their heads not to do this.

It is that incident.
Thaler did not give a penalty, neither touch judge gave anything.
Richardson takes forever to get the kick off. Prior makes minimal contact and it’s not to the head. They show it 3 times on sky. After the 3rd one.
Phil Clarke, yes Phil Clarke “There is nothing wrong with that tackle from Matt Prior”.

How Prior can get 2 games for that when Singo only gets 3 for deliberately going to do Sironen is a total joke.
They are not fit for purpose.

Re: 2022 | Injuries & Suspensions : Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:08 pm  

chapylad wrote:

I really do think Leeds and maybe other clubs should take this further.
It would be easy for a solicitor to put together various offences over the season and compare them to the bans received.
If and I know I am biased here.
But if it is proved there is a clear case of wrong doings then it should be up to the RFL to explain their logic.

Not a chance of this happening .

Re: 2022 | Injuries & Suspensions : Mon Jul 11, 2022 11:12 pm  

That isn't the way to do it. The way to do it is for the club to lobby for change. I imagine we wouldn't be alone. Even if we were, the RFL would have to take seriously a suggestion from one of just 12 top flight teams that they have no confidence in the system.

The issue with it for me is the damage it does to the spectacle of the game when multiple players are suspended for innocuous incidents. RL is a niche sport struggling for money. The last thing we should have is our own excessive judiciary ruining the sport.

Clamping down on head high contact and late hits on kickers is fine, but most of the incidents getting bans are just part and parcel of playing a high speed contact sport. Anybody who has watched the game for a while can tell the difference between intentional versus reckless versus accidental contact, and the level of potential damage. I have no issue at all with Tet's latest ban - in fact I'd argue it should have been longer. But a lot of the others are ridiculous.

Re: 2022 | Injuries & Suspensions : Mon Jul 11, 2022 11:46 pm  

I see Leeds are appealing the increase in Newman's ban. If I were them I'd use this as a litmus test of the credibility of the panel. Its childlike behaviour in adding to a ban when a club appeals is ridiculous. That ought to be one power the panel simply doesn't have.

Re: 2022 | Injuries & Suspensions : Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:29 am  

The panel's actions are largely about offsetting liability, I suspect. There'll always be concussive incidents, such as accidental clash of heads, that they can't mitigate. But late or malicious they can. It's nothing to do with fans' or coachs' perceptions but everything to do with discharging a duty of care and avoiding lawsuits.
Newman's is different of course. But behaving like a knob is bound to have its own pitfalls.

Re: 2022 | Injuries & Suspensions : Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:54 am  

The problem with what they are doing now is that they are not doing anything to stop the multiple head knocks a game which come from playing a contact sport, and we already penalise bad offences. Tet's ban is fine, if not too short. You won't prevent lawsuits in the future by pointing at some of these other bans. What you will do is damage the sport on the field.

The NRL went through a similar crackdown and now have a balance that most people think is acceptable.

My issue with Newman isn't about his initial ban, its about the panel increasing it because the club decided to appeal, with the panel calling it 'frivolous'. That's just childish, insulting to the club, and penalises Newman for the club's actions.

Re: 2022 | Injuries & Suspensions : Tue Jul 12, 2022 7:45 am  

Once were Loiners wrote:

My issue with Newman isn't about his initial ban, its about the panel increasing it because the club decided to appeal, with the panel calling it 'frivolous'. That's just childish, insulting to the club, and penalises Newman for the club's actions.

It's the player who makes the final decision whether to appeal not the club.

Re: 2022 | Injuries & Suspensions : Tue Jul 12, 2022 11:25 am  

Once were Loiners wrote:

The problem with what they are doing now is that they are not doing anything to stop the multiple head knocks a game which come from playing a contact sport, and we already penalise bad offences. Tet's ban is fine, if not too short. You won't prevent lawsuits in the future by pointing at some of these other bans. What you will do is damage the sport on the field.

The NRL went through a similar crackdown and now have a balance that most people think is acceptable.

My issue with Newman isn't about his initial ban, its about the panel increasing it because the club decided to appeal, with the panel calling it 'frivolous'. That's just childish, insulting to the club, and penalises Newman for the club's actions.

The appeal was a waste of everyone’s time though. Newman should have taken it on the chin and grow up a bit in future. We need him on the field …..

Re: 2022 | Injuries & Suspensions : Tue Jul 12, 2022 12:14 pm  

Once were Loiners wrote:

The problem with what they are doing now is that they are not doing anything to stop the multiple head knocks a game which come from playing a contact sport, and we already penalise bad offences. Tet's ban is fine, if not too short. You won't prevent lawsuits in the future by pointing at some of these other bans. What you will do is damage the sport on the field.

The NRL went through a similar crackdown and now have a balance that most people think is acceptable.

My issue with Newman isn't about his initial ban, its about the panel increasing it because the club decided to appeal, with the panel calling it 'frivolous'. That's just childish, insulting to the club, and penalises Newman for the club's actions.

Agreed

Re: 2022 | Injuries & Suspensions : Tue Jul 12, 2022 2:47 pm  

Prior ban being appealed. See you in 3 games matt...