Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Thu May 30, 2019 7:50 pm  

Fallon wrote:

I don't believe anyone has said Sinny is the or even a, problem. He just has no experience of this role. Appointing someone to a senior role in an organisation with no practical experience is a huge risk.

Part of his role is to put a new structure in place to rebuild and support a winning culture. Part of that task was to get the right coach in and he has failed. In itself that is fine, we all fail at times. The next appointment as I keep saying, must be the right one or questions will rightly be asked.

He does have experience though, but regardless of that he has a higher skill set than those that are very experienced, with a focus and desire way exceeding them.

He didn’t make a mistake with Furner. Furner was the right man at the wrong time. There was exceptional circumstances as we are now led to believe. That doesn’t make Furner a failure, or Sinfield at fault for appointing him. I also don’t believe for one minute that Furner was Sinfields out and out choice. The club have long touted Furner and been linked with him, way before Sinfield got his job.

Like I said, Sinfield should have had his current job when he hung up his boots, and then should have had Hetheringtons role by now.

But I ask again, who across the game in his role is more experienced?

Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Thu May 30, 2019 8:02 pm  

Gotcha wrote:

He does have experience though, but regardless of that he has a higher skill set than those that are very experienced, with a focus and desire way exceeding them.

He didn’t make a mistake with Furner. Furner was the right man at the wrong time. There was exceptional circumstances as we are now led to believe. That doesn’t make Furner a failure, or Sinfield at fault for appointing him. I also don’t believe for one minute that Furner was Sinfields out and out choice. The club have long touted Furner and been linked with him, way before Sinfield got his job.

Like I said, Sinfield should have had his current job when he hung up his boots, and then should have had Hetheringtons role by now.

But I ask again, who across the game in his role is more experienced?

What exceptional circumstances?

He didn't make a mistake with Furner? The man he has publicly said was his number one choice?

If you ready want to get into it the Furner thing is a debacle. He gets his number 1 choice, preaches the need for patience. Then 14 games later the two are so at odds on a fundamental level that Sinny offers his own resignation by way of an ultimatum. That is without even mentioning how utterly shitte we have been all season. But despite that, most people are supportive of Sinny and desperately want to see him succeed.

You have accused others of being blinkered to Sinny on here yet you are doing the exact same thing.

Just be honest and say he is making mistakes and that in part is down to one inexperience in the role.

Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Thu May 30, 2019 8:07 pm  

So if we are to read/belief our last 10 month.
Sinfield comes with his FRIEND Lowes n makes a mess.
Sinfield appoints his FRIEND Furner and makes a mess.
Sinfield Sacks his FRIEND Furner as relationship untenable.
Sinfield now sits on Agars knee during games.
Sinfield refuses to accept we need a new coach
Sinfield refuses to rid deadwood
Sinfield hasn't strengthened the squad.
Sinfield pi55ed in the wind when Carney questioned him.
No wonder it's a mess.

Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Thu May 30, 2019 8:14 pm  

taxi4stevesmith wrote:

So if we are to read/belief our last 10 month.
Sinfield comes with his FRIEND Lowes n makes a mess.
Sinfield appoints his FRIEND Furner and makes a mess.
Sinfield Sacks his FRIEND Furner as relationship untenable.
Sinfield now sits on Agars knee during games.
Sinfield refuses to accept we need a new coach
Sinfield refuses to rid deadwood
Sinfield hasn't strengthened the squad.
Sinfield pi55ed in the wind when Carney questioned him.
No wonder it's a mess.

Don't worry, Gotcha has said he's the best man for the job so it will all be fine.

Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Thu May 30, 2019 8:15 pm  

Fallon wrote:

What exceptional circumstances?

He didn't make a mistake with Furner? The man he has publicly said was his number one choice?

If you ready want to get into it the Furner thing is a debacle. He gets his number 1 choice, preaches the need for patience. Then 14 games later the two are so at odds on a fundamental level that Sinny offers his own resignation by way of an ultimatum. That is without even mentioning how utterly shitte we have been all season. But despite that, most people are supportive of Sinny and desperately want to see him succeed.

You have accused others of being blinkered to Sinny on here yet you are doing the exact same thing.

Just be honest and say he is making mistakes and that in part is down to one inexperience in the role.

I haven’t accused anyone of been blinkered. I have accused someone of using a poor interview to push an agenda. And at no time have i said he hasn’t made mistakes, not sure what your reading.

If you reread my previous post, you will have all your answers to your questions asked. But I repeat again, Furner was touted for coach long before Sinfield got his role. I don’t believe for one single minute that was his decision. I accept totally he wholeheartedly went along with it.

So yet again I ask, who is more experienced and as good a skills in that same role across the game? Is it really that hard? That’s the only thing I have pointed out, and you seem to find it so difficult to answer. That is not praise of the guy as you seem to assume, it is simply looking at it correctly.

Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Thu May 30, 2019 9:21 pm  

'Know nowts' as someone name called on this thread earlier Talk about a load of sanctimonious BS. No one has a clue what's going on at HQ despite some claims otherwise. Classic SS.

Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Thu May 30, 2019 11:03 pm  

Gotcha wrote:

I haven’t accused anyone of been blinkered. I have accused someone of using a poor interview to push an agenda. And at no time have i said he hasn’t made mistakes, not sure what your reading.

If you reread my previous post, you will have all your answers to your questions asked. But I repeat again, Furner was touted for coach long before Sinfield got his role. I don’t believe for one single minute that was his decision. I accept totally he wholeheartedly went along with it.

So yet again I ask, who is more experienced and as good a skills in that same role across the game? Is it really that hard? That’s the only thing I have pointed out, and you seem to find it so difficult to answer. That is not praise of the guy as you seem to assume, it is simply looking at it correctly.

Just saying and repeating something doesn't make it true. You accuse myself and others of having "an agenda" just because we have different views to you and you are something of a hypocrite regarding your accusations. You have not been accused of having an agenda against both McDermott and Hetherington despite years of bad mouthing both at every opportunity. It is a year since BM was sacked yet you are still blaming him for current poor performances.

The club may well have been interested in Furner (or not) before Sinfield selected him, but in the end Sinfield and Hetherington have both admitted it was Kevin's choice which was then backed by GH. So no amount of bluster can mitigate his mistake.

Even if you can justify that Leeds needed a DOR in the first place, the position requires proven experience in business, man management and coaching. None of which Sinfield can claim to have. Playing experience is just not enough for such a senior role. If indeed we needed a Director of Rugby then it should have been advertised and a short list selected. Giving jobs to former players is high risk and in his year in post Sinfield has as bad a record as the coach he has just sacked who was in post for half the time. His recruitment and team selections show poor judgement and his clash with his chosen coach point to poor man management skills and he comes over as wooden and lacking the human touch in his interviews. I hope he can learn fast and can prove me wrong.

Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Fri May 31, 2019 5:59 am  

KaeruJim wrote:

Sinfield does have a good skill set for DoR in my view; however it’s a strategic role which will always take time to deliver real change.

The cultural change Sinfield has alluded to at Leeds requires structures, but it will absolutely require a change in personnel as well. He cannot make all those changes quickly due to contractual commitments and he’s also mentioned that before.

What is a concern however is the signing activity we’ve made (and not made) since he took the role on.

Merrin is a quality player, but I’m not convinced he was the position we needed or that he’s good enough value for money. He’s solid but he’s not the impact player I think a marquee should be.

Lolohea - really needs to produce something different to remain at the club (May have been before KS, but he did come out and put a very positive spin on the player).

Hurrell: rocks and diamonds, but probably worth marquee status overall.

Furner: well...

Donaldson, Thompson, Albert - squad fillers at absolute best.

Walters, McLelland and O’Connor: yep good prospects.

Crosby: hardly played, and probably should be a rotation prop at Leeds if and when he does.

Ava: decent signing in theory but again not the impact player we need.

I’m willing to give Kevin more time but he has a heck of a lot of change to manage, out and in, to transform this squad for 2020 and he’s going to have to demonstrate first class judgement.

Pretty fair assessment that but i think Ava will be much much better over these next couple of months. Prob wont see him at his best until next season. Agree theres a hell of a lot of work to do

Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Fri May 31, 2019 6:06 am  

Come on guys lets stop sniping at each other. We are all entitled to our opinions no one is 100 correct in what they are saying. Lets debate like adults and as Leeds fans lets stick together.

Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Fri May 31, 2019 6:17 am  

Put it this way; if KS doesn’t end up working out (I hope and think he will by the way), I’d be wanting to know exactly how much input GH has been having all these years on recruitment. He has done a wonderful job with the club overall for a long period of time, but the team is clearly in a mess and has been for a while.

McDermott used to talk about how they would screen players for character and attitude as much as anything, and would only add to the squad if someone was better than an existing player - well if that has been the stated aim in their hiring they’ve failed badly.