Re: Rhyse Martin Out 2025 : Thu Aug 01, 2024 4:30 pm  

RAPIDO wrote:

Funny that a great player indeed Peacock but don't remember him at 97% kick rate you seem to sack off any player who decides to move on goal kickers of his standing are like hens teeth he's been a great servant I wish him well just not when he plays the Rhinos.

Good kicker is Rhyse, he’s not got a 97% kick rate though.

Re: Rhyse Martin Out 2025 : Thu Aug 01, 2024 7:56 pm  

This deal is not done yet Rovers are stalling if Martin is on the quota next year they have to release someone .
Apparently we offered him a 3 year improved deal.
Maybe we should improve it to Rovers offer.
We struggled for a long time when skinny retired.

Re: Rhyse Martin Out 2025 : Fri Aug 02, 2024 12:47 am  

People talk about us not being a 'big' club. One thing a 'big' club should never do is pay overs for any player. That's what desperate teams do. From all accounts we made Martin an offer, which he refused. We offered more and he refused again. The club then simply announced that he'll be leaving as a result of not taking up the revised offer.

That is the sort of discipline we'll need to revamp the squad. Work out what players are worth, and offer no more. It doesn't take many players being paid even small overs and you'll start having to make cuts elsewhere.

We probably had to do that to rebuild post Agar. Some of our players must be on contracts paying higher than their open market value as a result. The fact we're at or near the cap with a squad barely capable of scraping into the 6 tells you everything you need to know. Compare our 1-17 to Wigan, Sts or even KR and its clear we've got ourselves into a mess again.

I'd like to keep Martin, mainly for his goalkicking. But if we want to upsize our pack we need cap space, and most likely quota spots. We're ridiculously overloaded in the backs on quota, for frankly not a great return. Hopefully as some of the younger backs force their way into the team we'll be able to rebalance. But there's no question we've got into a mess, because our squad just isn't good enough yet.

Re: Rhyse Martin Out 2025 : Fri Aug 02, 2024 7:08 am  

Chesterrhino wrote:

This deal is not done yet Rovers are stalling if Martin is on the quota next year they have to release someone .
.

Isn't that why they've released Matt Parcell?

Re: Rhyse Martin Out 2025 : Fri Aug 02, 2024 7:13 am  

For me, it's a shame if he goes, but certainly not devastating.
He's been a solid, not spectacular back row.
He'll be 32, so we should not be throwing money at him.
If he's settled in Leeds, he can only be going for big bucks (no matter what Rovers fans say).
The goalkicking will be the biggest miss undoubtedly. That will need replacing.
But the biggest issue will be if the quota change comes in next year and he wouldn't have been a quota spot.
That would be a big shame.
If not, it's not such a massive blow.
Good luck to him.
Once a rhino, alwatys a rhino...

Re: Rhyse Martin Out 2025 : Fri Aug 02, 2024 7:25 am  

Rixy wrote:

Isn't that why they've released Matt Parcell?

They're still over the Quota even with him going IIRC

Re: Rhyse Martin Out 2025 : Fri Aug 02, 2024 9:29 am  

Cheers.

Re: Rhyse Martin Out 2025 : Fri Aug 02, 2024 10:26 am  

Once were Loiners wrote:

People talk about us not being a 'big' club. One thing a 'big' club should never do is pay overs for any player. That's what desperate teams do. From all accounts we made Martin an offer, which he refused. We offered more and he refused again. The club then simply announced that he'll be leaving as a result of not taking up the revised offer.

That is the sort of discipline we'll need to revamp the squad. Work out what players are worth, and offer no more. It doesn't take many players being paid even small overs and you'll start having to make cuts elsewhere.

We probably had to do that to rebuild post Agar. Some of our players must be on contracts paying higher than their open market value as a result. The fact we're at or near the cap with a squad barely capable of scraping into the 6 tells you everything you need to know. Compare our 1-17 to Wigan, Sts or even KR and its clear we've got ourselves into a mess again.

I'd like to keep Martin, mainly for his goalkicking. But if we want to upsize our pack we need cap space, and most likely quota spots. We're ridiculously overloaded in the backs on quota, for frankly not a great return. Hopefully as some of the younger backs force their way into the team we'll be able to rebalance. But there's no question we've got into a mess, because our squad just isn't good enough yet.

Agree with all this good post.

Re: Rhyse Martin Out 2025 : Fri Aug 02, 2024 10:53 am  

Do you not realise he has been our best player all season

Re: Rhyse Martin Out 2025 : Fri Aug 02, 2024 11:12 am  

not particularly a high bar though is it.....