Re: Joe Westerman : Thu Oct 08, 2015 9:46 am  

Loyal Leeds Fan wrote:

Superted wrote:

I'll be very surprised if Westerman would be on the same sort of money as Achurch - Achurch has been one VERY expensive mistake. He's lucky he didn't come with a big name (ala Mullins, Clyde) or he'd have been hammered much more on here. He is one of our very top earners.

I'd guess we'll be able to afford a Westerman type player and have plenty of money left over for contract upgrades or towards other signings.

How do you know he's one of our top earners? I'd be very surprised if he was.

When it was first announced he was joining us, Phil Gould mentioned when commentating on a Panthers game that they'd really wanted to keep him, but that he'd been offered 'silly money' by Leeds....

Add to that a few fairly loose lips and it's not that difficult to find out vague information if you have an idea of what it is you want to know...

Re: Joe Westerman : Thu Oct 08, 2015 9:47 am  

Loyal Leeds Fan wrote: How do you know he's one of our top earners? I'd be very surprised if he was. He's probably right. Achurch has been dreadful for a man of his size, he should be killing it. But he's a modern day Wayne McDonald. I've never seen him have a good game. With all due respect to Wakefield and players that have left us to them - you would have expected Achurch to have done the same for more game time and to PLAY RL - UNLESS he dug his heels in over salary and stuck it out a la Winston Bogarde. http://www.theguardian.com/football/201 ... -interview Accompanied by his manager, he confesses to loneliness, despair, an understanding of why he is viewed as greedy and, most poignantly, regret. This is the regret caused by drawing a £40,000-a-week salary that earned him nearly £10m between 2000 and 2004 while making only 12 appearances for Chelsea.

Loyal Leeds Fan wrote: How do you know he's one of our top earners? I'd be very surprised if he was. He's probably right. Achurch has been dreadful for a man of his size, he should be killing it. But he's a modern day Wayne McDonald. I've never seen him have a good game. With all due respect to Wakefield and players that have left us to them - you would have expected Achurch to have done the same for more game time and to PLAY RL - UNLESS he dug his heels in over salary and stuck it out a la Winston Bogarde. http://www.theguardian.com/football/201 ... -interview Accompanied by his manager, he confesses to loneliness, despair, an understanding of why he is viewed as greedy and, most poignantly, regret. This is the regret caused by drawing a £40,000-a-week salary that earned him nearly £10m between 2000 and 2004 while making only 12 appearances for Chelsea.

Re: Joe Westerman : Thu Oct 08, 2015 12:48 pm  

craigizzard wrote:

I've also been told a while ago that Achurch is one of our higher earners, from a reliable source. Obviously you can take or leave that. But when Gary brought him over he was saying he'd be an England international before the end of the year. I'd actually be surprised if an NRL club took him on at his current salary, and we might have to keep paying some of it next year even if he moves, but we can at least free up some cap by cutting loose.

gary can't get everything right

barrie mac was bought in with a bad rep and was still on thin ice when loaned to bramley

Re: Joe Westerman : Thu Oct 08, 2015 6:32 pm  

I would reckon Westerman on circa £100k a year at fc. I bow to others with more insight but always thought Achurch was a kind of project signing and therefore assumed not on a big salary. Is Achurch off contract at end of this year or does he have 1 more year?

Re: Joe Westerman : Thu Oct 08, 2015 6:35 pm  

One more year I think.

He would be a good signing as long he fits in and isn't signed instead of a hooker.

Re: Joe Westerman : Thu Oct 08, 2015 6:45 pm  

Agree hooker is main priority. I think we also need a goal kicker,/ part Sinfield replacement in the halves as Sutcliffe looks more like a back rower to me. Given positive views on falloon from others here, if we could get him and Westerman and luke gale would be 3 good bits of business. Suspect Westerman may go to wire. Very few true cas lads come to leeds

Re: Joe Westerman : Thu Oct 08, 2015 7:03 pm  

Mark Laurie wrote:

I would reckon Westerman on circa £100k a year at fc. I bow to others with more insight but always thought Achurch was a kind of project signing and therefore assumed not on a big salary. Is Achurch off contract at end of this year or does he have 1 more year?

I wouldn't have thought you'll be too far away with Westermans wages.... And like I said previously, Achurch's salary will more than cover it - with a fair bit left over for upgrades etc....

Re: Joe Westerman : Thu Oct 08, 2015 7:11 pm  

Superted wrote:

I wouldn't have thought you'll be too far away with Westermans wages.... And like I said previously, Achurch's salary will more than cover it - with a fair bit left over for upgrades etc....

About 2 years ago Sinfield was biggest earner at just under GBP100k.

Can't see Achurch being on more than that.

As I said it was a couple of years ago but it won't be that much different now (although I suspect Sinfield's salary will have reduced a bit)

Re: Joe Westerman : Thu Oct 08, 2015 7:15 pm  

Genuinely shocked to learn that Achurch is one of our top earners. What an average injury prone disaster of a signing he has been in that case.

Re: Joe Westerman : Thu Oct 08, 2015 7:22 pm  

HucknallLoiner wrote:

About 2 years ago Sinfield was biggest earner at just under GBP100k.

Can't see Achurch being on more than that.

As I said it was a couple of years ago but it won't be that much different now (although I suspect Sinfield's salary will have reduced a bit)

Never heard details of Sinfields salary, but that seems ridiculously low.... Achurch was signed when the £ wasn't doing so well against the Aus$, which is a small part of why he's getting so much...