Re: 10 interchanges from next season : Wed Dec 07, 2011 1:20 pm  

Andy Gilder wrote:

Terrible idea.

How is having physically and mentally fatigued players on the field for longer going to increase the intensity or quality of the competition?

How do they manage in the NRL? - doesn't impact on the intesity there - maybe we just need to get our players upto their standards of fitness and endurance?

Re: 10 interchanges from next season : Wed Dec 07, 2011 1:27 pm  

G1 wrote:

We haven't yet got rid of Amor.

2 less substitutions isn't really going to make that much difference is it?

Bullseye, you and I no doubt recall there being only two substitutions and once subbed, you were done.

I'm sure older gets will remember substitutions only for injured players.

But we have got rid of him for this year.
My point is that he is much more likely to have more minutes on the field than Kylie is ever going to have.

Re: 10 interchanges from next season : Wed Dec 07, 2011 1:30 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

How do they manage in the NRL? - doesn't impact on the intesity there - maybe we just need to get our players upto their standards of fitness and endurance?

IMO we should be looking to make life harder for attacking sides to encourage creativity and game craft, not making it easier for them by putting more tired defenders on the field for the little guys to run at from dummy half four plays out of six.

Re: 10 interchanges from next season : Wed Dec 07, 2011 1:44 pm  

Andy Gilder wrote:

IMO we should be looking to make life harder for attacking sides to encourage creativity and game craft, not making it easier for them by putting more tired defenders on the field for the little guys to run at from dummy half four plays out of six.

I think its short term vs long term. Short term there may be more tired bodies though the combined effort across the 17 should remain the same. IN the long term I guess you'd hope that the players would be conditioned to it better, and at least remain on a par with the aussies on that side of things

Re: 10 interchanges from next season : Wed Dec 07, 2011 1:46 pm  

chapylad wrote:

But we have got rid of him for this year.

Not yet we haven't. Can't we recall him any time up to July?

Re: 10 interchanges from next season : Wed Dec 07, 2011 2:10 pm  

Andy Gilder wrote:

IMO we should be looking to make life harder for attacking sides to encourage creativity and game craft, not making it easier for them by putting more tired defenders on the field for the little guys to run at from dummy half four plays out of six.

This doesn't happen in Australia and they only have 10 interchanges - why is that? because the players are much fitter - perhaps if our players were fitter we would be making it harder for the attackers? If you fill your games with very average overseas players who could not cut it in the NRL and pay them more than their counterparts from the UK what kind of message does that send out.

The majority of our players would not be able to physically cope with training in Australia never mind the skills element of what is required - there is an excuse for lack of skill, there is no excuse for lack of fitness.

Re: 10 interchanges from next season : Wed Dec 07, 2011 4:13 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

This doesn't happen in Australia and they only have 10 interchanges - why is that? because the players are much fitter - perhaps if our players were fitter we would be making it harder for the attackers? If you fill your games with very average overseas players who could not cut it in the NRL and pay them more than their counterparts from the UK what kind of message does that send out.

The majority of our players would not be able to physically cope with training in Australia never mind the skills element of what is required - there is an excuse for lack of skill, there is no excuse for lack of fitness.

Cannot agree with the last part, a complete myth people like to band about. Even average SL players go down under and can cope. Think the only issue with some is the heat but that is just climatising. We may not have the skill but think most of our players can cope with fitness in NRL.

Re: 10 interchanges from next season : Wed Dec 07, 2011 4:18 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

The majority of our players would not be able to physically cope with training in Australia never mind the skills element of what is required - there is an excuse for lack of skill, there is no excuse for lack of fitness.

You don't think that more games and smaller squads means that many of ours are expected to play and train while carrying injuries? Might this not be a factor?

Re: 10 interchanges from next season : Wed Dec 07, 2011 7:38 pm  

G1 wrote:

Not yet we haven't. Can't we recall him any time up to July?

Oh right wasn`t aware of that.
Still would have rather we kept him maybe instead of Ambler and the ever improving Kirke!

Re: 10 interchanges from next season : Wed Dec 07, 2011 8:37 pm  

We need to rotate forwards and not the same forwards each week, Mac needs to be selective and rest Peacock and Lauluai in some less important games, we have the best squad of forwards in the comp by a country mile and we cant just expect the same forwards to cart it up week on week. We were very lucky last season that we did not get any injuries after we showed cross and burgess the door IMO.