Re: 2020 | Squad talk : Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:10 am  

Trebor1 wrote:

Agreed. He was outstanding against GB too. Think we can see why Furner was sacked.

To be fair Furner wasn’t why it didn’t work. He identified the problems, but couldn’t get the changes to make it work with support. Lolohea was just as bad in many games after Furner left, before the club without Furner long since involved got rid.

Re: 2020 | Squad talk : Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:14 am  

batleyrhino wrote:

Precisely. At Leeds he played behind a beaten pack most weeks, was in poor condition when he arrived, was disinterested most of the time, and it was the right decision to let him go.

What happens after he leaves is irrelevant as it wouldn’t have happened at Leeds.

100% This.

Re: 2020 | Squad talk : Sat Nov 02, 2019 12:08 pm  

Hurrell was rock solid on the right side against latrell Mitchell.

Re: 2020 | Squad talk : Sat Nov 02, 2019 12:53 pm  

batleyrhino wrote:

Precisely. At Leeds he played behind a beaten pack most weeks, was in poor condition when he arrived, was disinterested most of the time, and it was the right decision to let him go.

What happens after he leaves is irrelevant as it wouldn’t have happened at Leeds.

It's a coach's job to get the best out of his players. They all respond differently and all have slightly different motivations and personalities. Yes the player has responsibilities but the difference in performance levels between Tui at Leeds and Tui after a few months at Salford, never mind Tui for Tonga can't just be ignored.

Re: 2020 | Squad talk : Sat Nov 02, 2019 1:31 pm  

Gotcha wrote:

To be fair Furner wasn’t why it didn’t work. He identified the problems, but couldn’t get the changes to make it work with support. Lolohea was just as bad in many games after Furner left, before the club without Furner long since involved got rid.

Yeah appreciate what you're saying but for me Furner couldnt get the players to play for him. When Agar took over, for me many of the players were at rock bottom. I think Tui had not settled at all and downed tools then wanted out.

Re: 2020 | Squad talk : Sat Nov 02, 2019 2:46 pm  

Did Furner have the players he wanted? Sinfield in charge of recruitment so he needs to take a lot of the blame

Re: 2020 | Squad talk : Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:49 pm  

Merrin back until the NRL transfer merry-go-round kicks in. Hopefully he gets a deal sorted quickly and gives us a chance to find a replacement

Re: 2020 | Squad talk : Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:00 pm  

I haven't seen Leeds games this year, except the ones on sky,

But surly..
The Tonga forwards are giving Lolohea a better platform to perform then the Rhinos forwards did all season?

Re: 2020 | Squad talk : Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:29 pm  

Bang wrote:

Merrin back until the NRL transfer merry-go-round kicks in. Hopefully he gets a deal sorted quickly and gives us a chance to find a replacement

He’ll go down a fair bit in my estimations if he leaves before or even early on in the season, I don’t expect him to see out the rest of his contract but Id like him to stay for the rest of next season

Re: 2020 | Squad talk : Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:38 pm  

batleyrhino wrote:

Precisely. At Leeds he played behind a beaten pack most weeks, was in poor condition when he arrived, was disinterested most of the time, and it was the right decision to let him go.

What happens after he leaves is irrelevant as it wouldn’t have happened at Leeds.

On top of all this, Tui was hardly ripping up the NRL when he signed, with NRL clubs falling over each other to sign him...

He was just the wrong player at the wrong time for Leeds, unfortunately.