Re: St Helens Home. : Sat May 27, 2023 9:18 am  

Haven't watched it back yet but came away from the game with a sore throat from all the chanting and rorting.
Yes, lots of mistakes but thoroughly entertaining game.
Dissapointed to not come away with a point (separate conversation) but I'd take that every week for that entertainment. Play like that and we will be there or there abouts at the end of the year
Will comment again after watching replays and getting better views of the controversial moments without emotions overflowing

Re: St Helens Home. : Sat May 27, 2023 9:31 am  

Jack Burton wrote:

I've said it before, but along with the refereeing of the ruck, finding a way to reduce the number of injuries is probably the most cost effective thing the games administrators can do to improve the quality of the product. It's not just us, every team always seems to have at least 4 or 5 first team players missing each week. We don't have a massive talent pool in this country, so getting as many of the best players playing as often as possible is massively important.
Obviously, a lot of injuries are bad luck and will always happen, but reducing the amount of wrestling at the ruck is imperative IMO. Even the ball carriers are wrestling at the ruck to try and win a penalty, some play the balls are reminiscent of 2 boxers fighting in a clinch.

How do you legislate for that though? Limit the number of tacklers to 2? Some players in the heat of battle are absolutely trying to injure the opposition you can see the intent - albeit a minority.

Re: St Helens Home. : Sat May 27, 2023 9:32 am  

We were the the better side from the off and without so many injuries and disruption to playing positions, looked like we were on for a good win. RS was humble and dignified in his press conference, however I'd say it's a travesty saints got the points.

Re: St Helens Home. : Sat May 27, 2023 9:46 am  

Seth wrote:

Does that also mean youre not allowed to have an opinion about someone's opinion? Sounds like those that cry snowflake when people disagree with them.

This kind of proves what I was saying its ok for you to call names Snowflake, pratt etc typical playground bully stuff, anyone who has a different take on things.

Re: St Helens Home. : Sat May 27, 2023 11:37 am  

Seth wrote:

We were the the better side from the off and without so many injuries and disruption to playing positions, looked like we were on for a good win. RS was humble and dignified in his press conference, however I'd say it's a travesty saints got the points.

Correct, looking at one of the trys awarded in the HKR Wigan game and using that judgement as a bench mark ,I thought we didn’t get a decent call on our disallowed trys. Have followed Leeds for years well before super league was formed, in all that time I can’t recall an injury crisis similar to this one. Frustrating thing is the injuries are all to key players. On the plus side every Leeds player gave everything for the cause, so no complaints on that score. Game management below par, but entirely forgivable due to the nature of the game.

Re: St Helens Home. : Sat May 27, 2023 12:11 pm  

RAPIDO wrote:

This kind of proves what I was saying its ok for you to call names Snowflake, pratt etc typical playground bully stuff, anyone who has a different take on things.

Errm no it doesn't. I had an opinion about an opinion that's allowed. And who have I called snowflake.

Re: St Helens Home. : Sat May 27, 2023 12:20 pm  

Great game last night. Incredible effort but incredibly dumb play at the end. Not even setting up for a drop goal, an impossible offload on first tackle. We play smarter in the extra time and we win it. Not come away from a loss as pleased for a long time. Not sure why people seem to hate golden point extra time but it provides great drama

Re: St Helens Home. : Sat May 27, 2023 1:17 pm  

KaeruJim wrote:

How do you legislate for that though? Limit the number of tacklers to 2? Some players in the heat of battle are absolutely trying to injure the opposition you can see the intent - albeit a minority.

The refs need to clear the ruck/ ptb faster. All the laying on,wrestling and etc makes the player fight to get up.
It also makes the game slower,duller and yawning like

Re: St Helens Home. : Sat May 27, 2023 1:40 pm  

Barrie’s Glass Eye wrote:

I think that really could be a galvaniser.
If we have even one ‘proper’ halfback on the pitch we knick that. Given the patched together nature of the side by the end I think I’d reserve critics of them not managing to get a drop goal over.

The only real negative for me was the obvious injuries. Also not one to blame the referee but I thought the Sangare try was inconclusive and should have gone with the refs call. Also didn’t see a punch thrown either but they only showed one replay.

Holroyd best prop on the field. Hard to bag anyone but we probably saw the best and worst of a couple of players. Myler does so much well but just doesn’t have that cutting edge organization. Walters was good but still very raw, a couple of overexcited offloads and a poor read on the sironen try. Sangare an awesome break and then a chase back but then a bad error.

Overall more positive and hopefully last two weeks show we’ve put the poor starts to bed.

Looked like McDonald headbutted Lomax to me

Re: St Helens Home. : Sat May 27, 2023 1:55 pm  

thesaint71 wrote:

Looked like McDonald headbutted Lomax to me

That's weird since the cameras, ref and linesmen didn't see that, and even Lomax didn't mention it