Re: For the live of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:19 pm  

Charlie Sheen wrote:

Burrow was hardly a stranger to the dummy half role prior to the McDermott era, he played hooker under every coach he's played for at senior level. I find it hard to believe he received no coaching from any of them.

I guess Burrow is making a distinction between being tasked to stand in as a short term temporary measure and/or making an impact from the bench in addition to a recognised starting hooker to being asked to be the starting hooker - a role he'd fulfilled once under Powell, twice under Smith and not at all under McClennan according to my records.

Rob was also quite candid in a Sky interview with Sam Tomkins a few seasons ago, his (of the golden generation) will potentially be the interesting autobiography.

Re: For the live of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:36 pm  

PrinterThe wrote:

Or Sinfield who had experience at 9 including a MOM performance for England playing there, or Lunt who came in 2012, or Alton when he came in, or Lowes one of the best hookers of the SL era, or Roby when Burrow was called up to do the same role for England.....not to mention he did make a few appearances there earlier in his career pre McDermott so previous coaches too.

If you recall lowes was a decent scrum half at hunslet. Can't remember if he started at scrum half for Leeds and then changed to hooker.

Re: For the live of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sun Aug 27, 2017 8:35 am  

For me the reason we need a change is because the rugby is just so boring - the attack has never had any structure in all the time McDermott has been coach. Previously we had quick players who could play off the cuff instinctively these days its just 5 drives and a kick. Its time for some fresh ideas

Re: For the live of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sun Aug 27, 2017 10:01 am  

Oh you'll not be entertained watching Leeds that's for sure

Re: For the live of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sun Aug 27, 2017 3:41 pm  

BrisbaneRhino wrote:

So we're agreed everyone's allowed an opinion? Good.

So here's a question. Is anyone anywhere of the OPINION that BM's non-use of subs - particularly forwards - is a good idea?

All I can think is that were we to suffer injuries in a big game the players are used to playing with a limited bench. In a payoff that could be crucial, though is clutching at straws somewhat

Re: For the live of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sun Aug 27, 2017 11:33 pm  

Yes I think that is one hell of a straw to clutch at.

Someone said our pack is slow. Next year we have Galloway, Cuthbertson, Ablett, Delaney, JJB and Ferres all the wrong side of 30 and all likely to be in the first choice 17. Only Ward and Parcell of our definite starters are in the prime age range. As a group that needs freshening up big time. That can't be down to BM alone.

Re: For the live of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Sun Aug 27, 2017 11:47 pm  

Also, reading Burrow's interview in the YEP, he could basically be saying that he had to work out a way of playing hooker that worked for him. Who was going to be able to teach him to dart around the PTB in the way he did to smash Sts? Literally nobody else could have done what he did, and no skills coach could teach it.

Re: For the live of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Mon Aug 28, 2017 9:01 pm  

BrisbaneRhino wrote:

Also, reading Burrow's interview in the YEP, he could basically be saying that he had to work out a way of playing hooker that worked for him. Who was going to be able to teach him to dart around the PTB in the way he did to smash Sts? Literally nobody else could have done what he did, and no skills coach could teach it.

Burrow was stood at first receiver (where the 7 should be) when he carved up Saints in 2011, so I still maintain he played his best stuff at halfback.

Im still of the belief that it should have been Sinfield who converted to Hooker after Buderus left (or stuck at 13), but I guess it didnt work out too badly in the end.

Re: For the live of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Tue Aug 29, 2017 4:54 am  

But his 'stuff as a halfback' wasn't the meat and drink of a halfback - organising, kicking and passing. He was never good enough in those basics to balance his undoubted running game to have been a great halfback.

Re: For the live of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:42 am  

BrisbaneRhino wrote:

But his 'stuff as a halfback' wasn't the meat and drink of a halfback - organising, kicking and passing. He was never good enough in those basics to balance his undoubted running game to have been a great halfback.

True. having Sinfield at 13 back in the day allowed McGuire and Burrow to concentrate on their running games and took a lot of the pressure off. If we didn't have Sinfield it's hard to imagine we could have run with those two in the halves and responsible for game management with a bog standard running lock behind them which is the way of most sides today.