Re: Wane : Sun May 19, 2019 9:50 am  

It’s like people have no memory at all. Wane took years to put in place what he did at Wigan, starting lower in the coaching order, and working off Maguire did, then developing. There was no short term magic done. He went for decent money in union, and is already not succeeding, hence the desire to return.

Re: Wane : Sun May 19, 2019 10:34 am  

Gotcha wrote:

It’s like people have no memory at all. Wane took years to put in place what he did at Wigan, starting lower in the coaching order, and working off Maguire did, then developing. There was no short term magic done. He went for decent money in union, and is already not succeeding, hence the desire to return.

Precisely ^^^^^

IF the rumours doing the rounds are true about Furner trying to rip everything up and starting afresh with his new ideas are true and that the players didn’t like/couldn’t cope with it are true, then what makes people think our current squad are going to be able to suddenly accept and cope with the demands Wane would put on them? They currently simply don’t have the appetite for the defensive demands Wane would want to introduce and like you say there is NO way our squad are going to be able to pick this up quickly.

Also people seem to have forgot about his time here as a player when he later admitted he had no desire to be here and his heart was never in it as he was simply Wigan through and through. I just don’t see him coaching here and if the players were shocked at Funer’s methods they would poop themselves at the demands Wane would expect of them

Re: Wane : Sun May 19, 2019 10:53 am  

Next appointment has to be given 3yrs minimum and FULLY BACKED im hoping we get Flannagan or Griffin or as an outside bet Tony SMITH but it needs sorting asap.
This !00% backing Agar drivel is doing us no favours either.

Re: Wane : Sun May 19, 2019 10:56 am  

What do we do? If the players are going to sulk and moan about anybody trying to change what needs changing, who do we hire? Somebody whos going to let them carry on the way they are? Mayswel keep Agar and continue to be garbage.

Any coach worth his salt is going to give this lot a kick up the backside because a good coach will see that its needed, if they didnt like it under Furner and if they wouldnt like it under Wane, theyr not going to like it under Flanagan, Demitriu, Powell, Marshall, Ford, Griffin or any other decent coach in the world.

Re: Wane : Sun May 19, 2019 11:13 am  

Andrew johns made similar comments re the Panthers - its up to the players. In their game vs the Warriors he said they lost every collision and a really telling sign was that in almost every tackle they made one or more of their players was left on the ground as the ball was played. He reckoned that was a sure sign of lack of effort. Sounds remarkably similar to our efforts in recent times. .

Re: Wane : Sun May 19, 2019 11:50 am  

Charlie Sheen wrote:

Personally, I think Ian Watson would be a great choice if we want a British coach.

Yeah, I like the way the guy sets up his side to play. Seems able to overcome a fair bit of adversity whereas Powell apparently cannot. Wane would be a gamble in so far as if he didn't turn things around in 10mins - and there's no precedent to say he would - then Headingley would be like a morgue. Smith would be given a bit more latitude in terms of getting things right on account of what he did for us in the past while an Australian of decent pedigree would be shown a bit of patience too.

Re: Wane : Sun May 19, 2019 11:56 am  

mattsrhinos1978 wrote:

What do we do? If the players are going to sulk and moan about anybody trying to change what needs changing, who do we hire? Somebody whos going to let them carry on the way they are? Mayswel keep Agar and continue to be garbage.

Any coach worth his salt is going to give this lot a kick up the backside because a good coach will see that its needed, if they didnt like it under Furner and if they wouldnt like it under Wane, theyr not going to like it under Flanagan, Demitriu, Powell, Marshall, Ford, Griffin or any other decent coach in the world.

This.

Re: Wane : Sun May 19, 2019 12:22 pm  

Gotcha wrote:

It’s like people have no memory at all. Wane took years to put in place what he did at Wigan, starting lower in the coaching order, and working off Maguire did, then developing. There was no short term magic done. He went for decent money in union, and is already not succeeding, hence the desire to return.

Of course it wasn't a quick fix at Wigan... he was coaching (not head coach) for the first time, so still learning his trade, and as you say, developing under Maguire. I imagine he is a bit better now than he was when he started about 10 years ago....
And regarding his foray into Yawnion, he possibly did it for the money, and hates it, or dislikes the class divide, or doesn't eat haggis!! Sir Kev went to union but didn't stay to the end of his contract, if I remember...? Did he return because he wasn't succeeding, so should be treated the way you want Wane treated??

Re: Wane : Sun May 19, 2019 12:24 pm  

cheekydiddles wrote:

Precisely ^^^^^

IF the rumours doing the rounds are true about Furner trying to rip everything up and starting afresh with his new ideas are true and that the players didn’t like/couldn’t cope with it are true, then what makes people think our current squad are going to be able to suddenly accept and cope with the demands Wane would put on them? They currently simply don’t have the appetite for the defensive demands Wane would want to introduce and like you say there is NO way our squad are going to be able to pick this up quickly

If this is true then Sinfield should have backed him rather than sack him. The players need to man up and do whatever the coach tells them (whoever that coach might be). Their lousy performances have got us into this position-even though the squad isn’t great, it is massively underachieving.

Re: Wane : Sun May 19, 2019 12:49 pm  

shadwellrhino wrote:

If this is true then Sinfield should have backed him rather than sack him. The players need to man up and do whatever the coach tells them (whoever that coach might be). Their lousy performances have got us into this position-even though the squad isn’t great, it is massively underachieving.

100% agree