Re: SL RD 22 | Hull Kingston Rovers (H) : Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:18 am  

I'd just make the point that the club has undergone unprecedented change in the last 12 months. I certainly have seen nothing like it.

My view would be that beyond the next few signings and possibly the coach, everything else needs time to settle and gel. The process of change itself is unsettling and for the club to make progress we need to dig in and focus on incremental gains.

Combinations do take time to gel and culture takes time to settle if you want a real team spirit.

More changes will probably be needed at the end of 2020 but we need to get back to a steady 10-20% staff turnover level rather than the 60% we've been witnessing. Leeds had it right when they were going for stability before, but they took it too far and got too cocky in the belief that their wonderful environment would make champion players out of championship players.

Re: SL RD 22 | Hull Kingston Rovers (H) : Mon Jul 15, 2019 10:03 am  

We also need to avoid knee jerk signings, but after so many changes we still look poor in a number of positions. That back division vs kr was pretty much first choice with nobody pressing for a spot behind them.

Re: SL RD 22 | Hull Kingston Rovers (H) : Mon Jul 15, 2019 10:03 am  

exiledrhino wrote:

I don't think Sinfield is coaching the team. You can see in games, Agar is the one reacting to everything.

If Agar isn't going to be the long term coach, we could do a lot worse than Tony Smith. HKR aren't the best side, but some of their execution was very slick and well timed. Their set moves caused us huge problems all evening. He's a back to basics coach and players seem to be a bit scared of him too!

'We could do a lot worse than Tony Smith'! As though you can wave a magic wand and he'll turn up in an instance!! From all the soundbites and inferences he'll be at Rovers for the long term if and when survival is confirmed. Hes loving it at Hull KR and there's very little chance to zero he would leave for the current basket case that is Leeds. (Only if we were relegated and I would still think he wouldn't take the Leeds job)

Re: SL RD 22 | Hull Kingston Rovers (H) : Mon Jul 15, 2019 10:26 am  

I'm really glad Smith's back in the game. He coaches teams to play a nice style. We missed the boat and its time to move on. Good luck to kr with him though.

Re: SL RD 22 | Hull Kingston Rovers (H) : Mon Jul 15, 2019 10:35 am  

BrisbaneRhino wrote:

I'm really glad Smith's back in the game. He coaches teams to play a nice style. We missed the boat and its time to move on. Good luck to kr with him though.

Hes brought enjoyment and a positive smile back to the faces of many a Rovers fan . Some of the style of play you see these days is beyond tedious yet Smith goes against the script .
I think Leeds would 'do no worse' than James Ford of York. That's the type of coach that could suit your club for the long term future.

Re: SL RD 22 | Hull Kingston Rovers (H) : Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:24 am  

https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/r ... -1-9876417 “So Kevin is responsible for all the budget control in the rugby department and all player recruitment, retention and remuneration. He’s also taken on other responsibilities and eventually he will assume responsibility for all aspects of the rugby league department. As chief exec of any organisation, I still have a role to play but that role now is more one of a supporting one. I will always give Kevin my opinion. But at the end of the day the judgement call has now been transferred to him. It would have to be something very exceptional for me not to back Kevin Sinfield’s recommendation.” So Agar picks the 17 and gets them ready for the day, but Sinfield does everything else. And Agar has to deal with whoever Sinfield wants to hire/fire, as its up to Sinfield and not Agar.

https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/r ... -1-9876417 “So Kevin is responsible for all the budget control in the rugby department and all player recruitment, retention and remuneration. He’s also taken on other responsibilities and eventually he will assume responsibility for all aspects of the rugby league department. As chief exec of any organisation, I still have a role to play but that role now is more one of a supporting one. I will always give Kevin my opinion. But at the end of the day the judgement call has now been transferred to him. It would have to be something very exceptional for me not to back Kevin Sinfield’s recommendation.” So Agar picks the 17 and gets them ready for the day, but Sinfield does everything else. And Agar has to deal with whoever Sinfield wants to hire/fire, as its up to Sinfield and not Agar.

Re: SL RD 22 | Hull Kingston Rovers (H) : Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:45 am  

Angelus wrote:

https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/leeds-rhinos-special-report-sinfield-calls-the-shots-as-rhinos-seek-to-return-to-top-of-the-game-1-9876417

“So Kevin is responsible for all the budget control in the rugby department and all player recruitment, retention and remuneration.
He’s also taken on other responsibilities and eventually he will assume responsibility for all aspects of the rugby league department.
As chief exec of any organisation, I still have a role to play but that role now is more one of a supporting one.
I will always give Kevin my opinion.
But at the end of the day the judgement call has now been transferred to him.
It would have to be something very exceptional for me not to back Kevin Sinfield’s recommendation.”

So Agar picks the 17 and gets them ready for the day, but Sinfield does everything else. And Agar has to deal with whoever Sinfield wants to hire/fire, as its up to Sinfield and not Agar.

I think it's put to bed any hope we had of installing a high profile head coach. We'll be using the continental football method of Director of Football / coach arrangement.

Re: SL RD 22 | Hull Kingston Rovers (H) : Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:13 pm  

Les Norton wrote:

I think it's put to bed any hope we had of installing a high profile head coach. We'll be using the continental football method of Director of Football / coach arrangement.

It's always been like that Les KS is just taking over the duties from GH did.I'm sure who ever comes in as coach will also have some say.

Re: SL RD 22 | Hull Kingston Rovers (H) : Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:30 pm  

exiledrhino wrote:

I don't think Sinfield is coaching the team. You can see in games, Agar is the one reacting to everything.

If Agar isn't going to be the long term coach, we could do a lot worse than Tony Smith. HKR aren't the best side, but some of their execution was very slick and well timed. Their set moves caused us huge problems all evening. He's a back to basics coach and players seem to be a bit scared of him too!

Tony smith will be going nowhere at the season end if we stay up,loving it with us,trust me.

Re: SL RD 22 | Hull Kingston Rovers (H) : Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:13 pm  

des lawson wrote:

Tony smith will be going nowhere at the season end if we stay up,loving it with us,trust me.

Especially with James Ford turning down the chance to be his number 2, and learn the ropes, so to speak. Think he will stay on now