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Re: RD 19 | Leeds Rhinos v Castleford Tigers : Sat Jun 24, 2017 6:35 am  
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He is still fitter than Singleton it takes him 3 plays to get back in the line!!


I'm not disagreeing. Regressed so much this year. A prop who regularly only makes five yards per carry for me is not doing the job they are picked for. Seems to enjoy a collision more than doing a job.
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Re: RD 19 | Leeds Rhinos v Castleford Tigers : Sat Jun 24, 2017 6:42 am  
Cas are a well drilled team. Like someone said, they all know where they're meant to be when and the work they did on their passing in preseason has paid off. We've badly fallen off and offered nothing in attack last night. When we're crying out for someone to add a spark, a young lad with speed and no fear is left to sit on the bench. There have to be changes for next season. We have some quality youngsters but why would they want to stay and play for a guy who seems to have little faith in them
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Re: RD 19 | Leeds Rhinos v Castleford Tigers : Sat Jun 24, 2017 7:02 am  
As poor a display with the ball in hand as any this season and probably most of last. Totally clueless in attack on the few occasions that we managed to hold onto the ball and the only points we scored were gifted to us. I thought the defence was pretty good and Cas were actually well contained for most of the game and were a few notches below there best. Still far too good for us.
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Re: RD 19 | Leeds Rhinos v Castleford Tigers : Sat Jun 24, 2017 7:50 am  
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I'm not disagreeing. Regressed so much this year. A prop who regularly only makes five yards per carry for me is not doing the job they are picked for. Seems to enjoy a collision more than doing a job.


His problem has always been his failure to develop physically. He looks exactly the same size as he did when he first came into the team. He has the skinniest legs of any prop in the game, his leg drive after contact is pathetic. Out of all the props in the squad I think he's the most dispensable, but it seems like he's the cornerstone of the pack in the coaches eyes.
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Re: RD 19 | Leeds Rhinos v Castleford Tigers : Sat Jun 24, 2017 8:01 am  
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You need to finally get to a match Juan, instead of relying on tv highlights, you would then get a bit of realism. I sit in the Carnegie stand, and the problems with JJB were clear for all, struggling to move sideways and flapping at players as he can not get his arms around, jumping out of the line leaving the gaps, a penalty liability. These are not things because he is a poor player, they are simply down to his enthusiasm and desire. He doesn't use his head, and he clearly is not fit, and as a result can't do what he thinks he can. That first half he was leaving gaps on the right and struggling to tackle all the time. Second half when he went off for a period the defence notably stepped up. How many penalties did he contribute second half?

You need to stop the biase, and open your eyes. And nobody is complaining about the tackles he does make, which are important, it's the ones not recorded that you can't see.


I watched the full game on sky including their replays of crucial events and suggest this provided a better view than yours from behind the sticks at one end.

JJB is one of the players you regularly pick on and in this case your comment came at half time. Had you been able to see down to the other end you would have spotted JJB leading our defense with consecutive tackles and he made no handling errors all game. This is important because it was the 20 handling errors that were the main cause of our defeat.

You say he struggled to move sideways without mentioning that Sutcliffe and Briscoe lack of sideways movement cost us 12 points.
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Yes JJB did give away some penalties in the second half but he got pinged for things Cas players were getting away but that was not why we lost. He never stopped trying and IMO was full of energy till the final whistle.

From your behind the sticks view you should have spotted the awful attempt by Sutcliffe to tackle Hardaker. His other play was way below standard too. But you choose the most energetic member of the team to single out.
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Re: RD 19 | Leeds Rhinos v Castleford Tigers : Sat Jun 24, 2017 8:03 am  
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Not quite so full of yourself tonight.


Yet you are as per usual after a Leeds defeat. :)
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Re: RD 19 | Leeds Rhinos v Castleford Tigers : Sat Jun 24, 2017 8:08 am  
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No team can win a game dropping that amount of ball , especially when you are playing the best team in the league - but you also need some tactics on how to stop the opposition playing .Unfortunately we have a coach who doe not do tactics - he is braindead - so we have just seen the GALE mastershow , with the Leeds team as spectators - he could have played in a dinner suit tonight - heard this somewhere before , but its true!

Time to go Mac - braindead !!!


I didn't realise that McDermott was on the field But you think he made 20 handling errors too?
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Re: RD 19 | Leeds Rhinos v Castleford Tigers : Sat Jun 24, 2017 8:21 am  
no but he again tactically failed to stop cas doing what they have done in all previous games against us. and hall at centre???
your usual attempt to absolve the coach is duly noted albeit later than normal
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Re: RD 19 | Leeds Rhinos v Castleford Tigers : Sat Jun 24, 2017 8:42 am  
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no but he again tactically failed to stop cas doing what they have done in all previous games against us. and hall at centre???
your usual attempt to absolve the coach is duly noted albeit later than normal


Your usual blame the coach mantra is also duly noted. If the players drop the ball 20 times many of them early in the sets this gifts possession and then they miss 39 tackles this is nothing to do with the coaches tactics and you know it.
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Re: RD 19 | Leeds Rhinos v Castleford Tigers : Sat Jun 24, 2017 8:53 am  
and I agreed with that.
however tactically he was left wanting again. the most precocious young attacking talent in the league and he's unused. no wonder he's looking to leave. move a poor moon? no leave him. take off a useless Sutcliffe? no leave him.
he's incapable of Making in game decisions that aren't pre planned. Powell had him in his pocket again
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