Re: Where's the money Gary? : Thu Feb 16, 2017 2:20 pm  

I'd imagine the best 2-5 in the game receive a fair bite of it. I can't honestly say they do a right lot more than Achurch did to earn it. There are mitigating circumstances but I'd question the wisdom of retaining such an alleged wealth of talent in the 3/4s when the squad's so threadbare elsewhere. I'd personally be happy to see Moon or Watkins moved on if it enabled the signing of a top quality 6.

Re: Where's the money Gary? : Thu Feb 16, 2017 2:23 pm  

With Handley waiting in the wings (no pun intended) then maybe time to move on Briscoe.

Re: Where's the money Gary? : Thu Feb 16, 2017 2:31 pm  

ThePrinter wrote:

With Handley waiting in the wings (no pun intended) then maybe time to move on Briscoe.

Yes, quite possibly. Though I suspect Moon or Watkins would free up a bigger wedge.

Re: Where's the money Gary? : Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:03 pm  

Going on the stadium innit?

Maybe we will sign a HB mid season?

Re: Where's the money Gary? : Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:04 pm  

loiner81 wrote:

You forgot...

Mullally
Beau Falloon
Brett Ferres
Keith Galloway
Cameron Smith
Mikolaj Oledzki
probably some more too?

If they cover the wages saved on the departures then GH has had his pants pulled down.
Also given the Marquee allowence on the SC id say its more likely we have money available but GH is doing it on the cheap after the bill for Kirkstall.

Re: Where's the money Gary? : Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:18 pm  

Ferres and Galloway will be on good money, Parcell will be on a wedge as we were desperate at his time of signing and then you have upgrades for players that had just won all 3 trophies.Im not saying we won't have some cap space left but it won't be a truck load of cash imo.

Re: Where's the money Gary? : Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:21 pm  

The problem with the original post is that it isn't comparing apples with apples (& is also missing some names).

I have pulled up Rhinos 29 man-squad (no no.25 that year) from 2015 vs this season's 30-man squad (so, for instance Segeyaro becomes superfluous as the hookers are Aiton vs Parcell).

I have put (admittedly guessed) probable salaries against each. By my reckoning, we are paying about £150k - £200k less on wages in 2017 than in 2015 (with one more player). I have also increased wages for the likes of Golding, Handley, Ward, Lilley. I have NOT decreased anyone's wage (which MIGHT have happened to the likes of Delaney, Burrow, McGuire, JJB).

It has to be said that the vast majority of the savings are on 4 losses: Sinfield, Peacock, Hardaker and Achurch. Whilst the big new earner is Ferres (Galloway & Parcell also tip the balance back a bit).

Not very scientific, but I'm confident that we pay less in 2017 for our squad than in 2015.

Re: Where's the money Gary? : Thu Feb 16, 2017 4:38 pm  

son of headingley wrote:

Not very scientific, but I'm confident that we pay less in 2017 for our squad than in 2015.

And if not, as another poster said - GH has had his pants pulled down.

In terms of players on the books, the only one that could potentially be declared an upgrade is Parcell - the rest are like for like at absolute best, but in reality, the squad is nowhere near as good as 2015.

Re: Where's the money Gary? : Thu Feb 16, 2017 4:42 pm  

It still makes no sense.

We have NO half backs.

McGuire - As far as i can see, he is shot. Absolutely no offence, but he needs to consider his body now.

Burrow - OK, but again a shadow of his former self (like McGuire)

Sutcliffe - Erm, at best a lock/loose fwd?

Lilley - Sparks are there, but will be a fair while before he can run a game.

The off season was crying out for a half - but we did nothing.

Re: Where's the money Gary? : Thu Feb 16, 2017 4:48 pm  

RHINO-MARK wrote:

If they cover the wages saved on the departures then GH has had his pants pulled down.
Also given the Marquee allowence on the SC id say its more likely we have money available but GH is doing it on the cheap after the bill for Kirkstall.

I never said they replaced any wages lost or that we don't have money to spend, I was simply pointing out the sloppyness of the OP.
I also don't remember GH saying we don't have money to spend should the right player become available.

Pointless thread really.