Re: 2020 | Squad talk : Wed Oct 23, 2019 8:51 pm  

I generally agree with the sentiment re not signing for its own sake, but as it stands the only player likely to make a big difference from the shower of last year is Gale. We're one injury away from playing basically the same team that was miles off, and if we're in the mire again the kids just won't get picked.

So whilst not signing for the sake of it I think it would be crazy to not at least try to strengthen if we have any room at all.

Re: 2020 | Squad talk : Wed Oct 23, 2019 9:30 pm  

I think the club has got itself in a right old mess, over-paying some players (I include Merrin in that), contracting for way too long etc. Paying off Furner.

I actually think we’ll go OK next year as it happens, but if we have any ambitions to challenge again we just have to stop shopping for average players. Unless the player is close to international class, keep the money.

Gale is risky but ticks some boxes - Mellor is alright but not top class. It looks like we’ve already done our 2020 recruitment last year in Ava, Martin and Lui really.

If they were back-ended, which would make sense, I’d suggest there will be no more interesting signings coming in unless we shed Myler, Singo and maybe Peteru and/or
Cuthbertson.

[Frosties.]

Re: 2020 | Squad talk : Wed Oct 23, 2019 9:36 pm  

I still there will be three coming into the squad next season. I doubt we’d release Singleton, Golding and possibly Myler without the need for the space.

Re: 2020 | Squad talk : Wed Oct 23, 2019 9:40 pm  

Frosties. wrote:

I still there will be three coming into the squad next season. I doubt we’d release Singleton, Golding and possibly Myler without the need for the space.

can't see where we will get a prop and hooker from I do think we may sign Davies at least get him on loan.

Re: 2020 | Squad talk : Wed Oct 23, 2019 10:12 pm  

KaeruJim wrote:

I think the club has got itself in a right old mess, over-paying some players (I include Merrin in that), contracting for way too long etc. Paying off Furner.

I actually think we’ll go OK next year as it happens, but if we have any ambitions to challenge again we just have to stop shopping for average players. Unless the player is close to international class, keep the money.

Gale is risky but ticks some boxes - Mellor is alright but not top class. It looks like we’ve already done our 2020 recruitment last year in Ava, Martin and Lui really.

If they were back-ended, which would make sense, I’d suggest there will be no more interesting signings coming in unless we shed Myler, Singo and maybe Peteru and/or
Cuthbertson.

I disagree on Merrin as he is worth the £150k he commands on the cap but agree on the rest of the post.

I’m not really expecting much from next year but seeing some young uns getting game time, players like newman, oledski, smith, johnson kicking on and not being in a relegation fight will be ok by me to be honest

Re: 2020 | Squad talk : Wed Oct 23, 2019 10:33 pm  

batleyrhino wrote:

I also think Ferres will be there too, I just don’t see the point.

For second rowers we have:

Martin
Ward
Mellor
Sutcliffe
Smith
Walters
Trout

That’s not exactly a shortage. We’d be much better spending the money elsewhere...

I guess the point is that beyond Martin there is little proven quality. Ward is good but injury prone, Sutcliffe and Smith are meh, and the rest are kids.

Also ferres is capable of playing in the middle too.

It's not a great resigning but it does have some merits

Re: 2020 | Squad talk : Thu Oct 24, 2019 4:43 am  

Dont see any merits to keeping Ferres, id much rather see us give game time to a 19/20 yearold who isnt proven, or hasnt yet had the chance to show theyr quality, than waste cap and game time on a mid 30s yearold whos proved rubbish in all but a couple of games over 4 year. We'v also gave Donaldson a new deal who offers much more than Ferres.

Whatever the management see in him, it certainly isnt what he does on the pitch.

Re: 2020 | Squad talk : Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:28 am  

christopher wrote:

I disagree on Merrin as he is worth the £150k he commands on the cap but agree on the rest of the post.

I’m not really expecting much from next year but seeing some young uns getting game time, players like newman, oledski, smith, johnson kicking on and not being in a relegation fight will be ok by me to be honest

Oledzki will, I reckon, offer more grunt up front this year. Another year tougher, he should start showing signs of being a handful to put down now. And Newman must have learned so much from last year. A good pre-season working on his positioning and defence, the lad might be real gold next time.

Re: 2020 | Squad talk : Thu Oct 24, 2019 6:04 am  

I dont think anyone is advocating signing poor players for the sake of it but nobody can think we can go into next year with the hooking and prop options we currently have?

Where has the ambition gone? In years gone by we had a great hooker in Diskin and we added Danny Buderus. We added Gareth Ellis to the title winning record breaking 2004 squad.

Now we sit back and say Dwyer and young Corey arent the answer but who is there available? Its the clubs job to identify and add quality. Leave no stone unturned and get quality in. Leeds is still an attractive club to play for.

Has the fanbase and the club given up?

Re: 2020 | Squad talk : Thu Oct 24, 2019 8:01 am  

The Eagle wrote:

I guess the point is that beyond Martin there is little proven quality. Ward is good but injury prone, Sutcliffe and Smith are meh, and the rest are kids.

Also ferres is capable of playing in the middle too.

It's not a great resigning but it does have some merits

Sorry re-signing Ferres has zero merit whatsoever he isnt good enough.
You can count his genuinely good performances on one hand & he's a walking penalty machine.
He should be nowhere the 1st Team nor the Club.