Re: RD 12 | Leeds Rhinos v Huddersfield Giants : Sat Apr 29, 2017 12:11 pm  

rhino65 wrote:

I watched the game intently. My conclusion comes from the fact that whilst two poor teams competed, one of those teams defended better, kicked better and scored significantly more points.....thus.....the better team won.

They did kick better, that's about the only thing you have right. They both had the same carries, but Leeds made more metres. Leeds made more breaks. Leeds made more offloads. Despite you saying they defended better they actually missed tackles 20% more than Leeds. In nine out of ten games, with stats like that the losing team would normally be the winner. Does that mean Leeds were the better team? No, because they never took advantage of which those stats should give them. Huddersfield on the other hand were lucky they were playing a team that poor. There wasn't a better team out of it. There was a team that won, and that is it.

Re: RD 12 | Leeds Rhinos v Huddersfield Giants : Sat Apr 29, 2017 12:22 pm  

Do you stamp your feet whilst posting?

Stats stats stats and stats.......well done. Kicked better, defended better (i.e. prevented us getting over the try line) and took their chances. But please, keep straw clutching, it's entertaining in a slightly sad way.

Re: RD 12 | Leeds Rhinos v Huddersfield Giants : Sat Apr 29, 2017 1:07 pm  

rhino65 wrote:

Do you stamp your feet whilst posting?

Stats stats stats and stats.......well done. Kicked better, defended better (i.e. prevented us getting over the try line) and took their chances. But please, keep straw clutching, it's entertaining in a slightly sad way.

no its just sad

Re: RD 12 | Leeds Rhinos v Huddersfield Giants : Sat Apr 29, 2017 2:12 pm  

The game changed when hall sent out the pass that was dropped, Huddersfield passed out wide and scored. The defence on that play was poor. You could have thrown a blanket over several Leeds players, grouped in the middle of the pitch. So the defence line was not formed. Not certain as to briscoes position, probably out of position as per most of this season
I know it's blindingly obvious but we desperately need a quality half back to improve our kicking game and move us around the field.

Re: RD 12 | Leeds Rhinos v Huddersfield Giants : Sat Apr 29, 2017 3:24 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

Where have you said the best team won on the night, when do you ever say Leeds were beaten by a better side? I am not the one talking poop here

Like Gotcha has said, I wouldn't really call it "the better team won".....more a case the worst team lost. A poor performance beat an awful performance. My comments on the VT about the ref were just a wind up that Hudds fans (and yourself) jumped on. We hear year upon year about how we get all the calls from refs and Red Hall, why not give them some back.

Like we can see with your new betting offer with Lioner81, you suddenly grow a pair when Leeds start losing, quite sad.

Re: RD 12 | Leeds Rhinos v Huddersfield Giants : Sat Apr 29, 2017 4:17 pm  

PrinterThe wrote:

Like Gotcha has said, I wouldn't really call it "the better team won".....more a case the worst team lost. A poor performance beat an awful performance. My comments on the VT about the ref were just a wind up that Hudds fans (and yourself) jumped on. We hear year upon year about how we get all the calls from refs and Red Hall, why not give them some back.

Like we can see with your new betting offer with Lioner81, you suddenly grow a pair when Leeds start losing, quite sad.

I see Loiner doesn't have the confidence in the team to finish in the top 4 - he was very quick to try and ram how well Leeds were going down my throat earlier in the week otherwise I would have said nothing - your myopia is duly noted as sad as it is.

Leeds have lost a game so hardly a trend to go on for you its just a blip according to you anyway

Good job they had an easy week the previous week - wasn't it you who suggested this would work in Leeds' favour?

Still you are incapable of accepting/suggesting the best team won on the night it was a game lost by Leeds not a game won by Huddersfield - you are a very strange individual indeed.

Re: RD 12 | Leeds Rhinos v Huddersfield Giants : Sat Apr 29, 2017 4:21 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

I see Loiner doesn't have the confidence in the team to finish in the top 4 - he was very quick to try and ram how well Leeds were going down my throat earlier in the week otherwise I would have said nothing .

WTF are you talking about now? I literally just said the exact opposite of that, to you, on another thread which is further proof, if needed, that you just make it up as you go along.

One more time just to be clear: I'm EXTREMELY confident that Leeds will finish in the top 4.

You really do live on a different planet to the rest of us Sal.

Re: RD 12 | Leeds Rhinos v Huddersfield Giants : Sun Apr 30, 2017 5:59 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

I see Loiner doesn't have the confidence in the team to finish in the top 4 - he was very quick to try and ram how well Leeds were going down my throat earlier in the week otherwise I would have said nothing - your myopia is duly noted as sad as it is.

Leeds have lost a game so hardly a trend to go on for you its just a blip according to you anyway

Good job they had an easy week the previous week - wasn't it you who suggested this would work in Leeds' favour?

Still you are incapable of accepting/suggesting the best team won on the night it was a game lost by Leeds not a game won by Huddersfield - you are a very strange individual indeed.

I have no problem in saying the better team won when Leeds lose. Clearly Cas were miles better than us and Wire were the better team when they both beat us this season. Thursday night was more a case of who was least cr@p.

Maybe once when Leeds win games and are going well in the league you won't ALWAYS blame it on the other team/s being garbage and it'll be because of Leeds being good. I doubt you'll ever do that though.

Quite hypocritical for you to try bag me for not giving Hudds any credit for a single win in a poor game when you were quite happy to put Leeds' whole 2015 success down to the poor quality of the opposition rather than our quality.

Re: RD 12 | Leeds Rhinos v Huddersfield Giants : Sun Apr 30, 2017 7:14 pm  

PrinterThe wrote:

I have no problem in saying the better team won when Leeds lose. Clearly Cas were miles better than us and Wire were the better team when they both beat us this season. Thursday night was more a case of who was least cr@p.

Maybe once when Leeds win games and are going well in the league you won't ALWAYS blame it on the other team/s being garbage and it'll be because of Leeds being good. I doubt you'll ever do that though.

Quite hypocritical for you to try bag me for not giving Hudds any credit for a single win in a poor game when you were quite happy to put Leeds' whole 2015 success down to the poor quality of the opposition rather than our quality.

If Leeds play well I say so - if they don't I don't look for excuses as to why - especially refreering performances. If you don't think that is the case I suggest you look at my posting history.

2015 was part of a gradual lowering of standards that has been going on since 2006. I doubt you find anyone who is suggesting the standard of SL is improving.

2015 was a magnificent season for Leeds as a club but despite winning the lot few would suggest it was the finest Leeds side of the golden generation - so what does that say about the overall standard of the competition?

If you want to be objective about the Rhinos and their successes/failures you cannot view them in isolation you need to add some context.

Leeds weren't unlucky to lose to the Giants they were well beaten on Thursday by a team who played a lot better than they did. The fact both sides were appalling isn't the point.

As you correctly pointed out Leeds had a very easy week the week before it obviously benefitted them as you said it would

Re: RD 12 | Leeds Rhinos v Huddersfield Giants : Sun Apr 30, 2017 7:21 pm  

I thought the easy cup tie would benefit us (and it should've done) but my prediction didn't turn out that way.

Given how many times over the years you've predicted writing Leeds off I'd suggest you might not want to throw stones in that glass house of yours because you've predicted a lot worst than my prediction about the easy cup tie being beneficial, unless of course you're determined to make yourself look stupid which admittedly is a genuine possibility with you