Re: Ferres to Roosters falls through. : Thu Dec 24, 2015 9:44 am  

Andy Gilder wrote:

Huddersfield's liability on Ferres isn't going to be four years salary though is it? If he doesn't move at some point during this season, he'll definitely go before the next one starts because teams will make space for him.

So at the very worst, Huddersfield's liability on it is one year's basic wages with no appearance, win or try bonuses. They're not as over a barrel as some seem to think they are.

I'm no specialist on employment law here but I wonder what Huddersfields position would be if Ferres stayed for 2016. Would they have to play him? I'd imagine they'd have to have him train in some fashion even if it's not with the other players. I'm just thinking constructive dismissal-wise.

Re: Ferres to Roosters falls through. : Thu Dec 24, 2015 9:50 am  

Nothing to stop that happening and would mirror what has happened with carney to Salford. Think gh may be getting his slant in first on the Leeds won't offload people to make room as expects a deal is close with a competitor and they will have to offload a player or 2. Agree with comments that Ferres unlikely to take any overall pay cut.

Re: Ferres to Roosters falls through. : Thu Dec 24, 2015 10:20 am  

Ferres shouldn't worry too much about his salary. Chances are most of it will be going in maintenance anyway.

Re: Ferres to Roosters falls through. : Thu Dec 24, 2015 12:05 pm  

Excerpt from A3:5 of the RFL Operation Rules, which I wasn't aware of:

"If a player is loaned out or dual registered to another club, responsibility for payment of their salary and any appearance money they are entitled to shall remain with the Club they are contracted to. Recovery of any costs should be made by invoicing the agreed values monthly to the recipient Club. The recipient Club should ensure that these invoices are paid in a timely manner"

So presumably even if Huddersfield loan Ferres out, for cap purposes they are still responsible for his full contract but can recover some of the cash from whoever they loan him to? Which would mean that the club he goes to wouldn't have to get him in under their cap, presumably?

Re: Ferres to Roosters falls through. : Thu Dec 24, 2015 1:00 pm  

Andy Gilder wrote:

Excerpt from A3:5 of the RFL Operation Rules, which I wasn't aware of:

"If a player is loaned out or dual registered to another club, responsibility for payment of their salary and any appearance money they are entitled to shall remain with the Club they are contracted to. Recovery of any costs should be made by invoicing the agreed values monthly to the recipient Club. The recipient Club should ensure that these invoices are paid in a timely manner"

So presumably even if Huddersfield loan Ferres out, for cap purposes they are still responsible for his full contract but can recover some of the cash from whoever they loan him to? Which would mean that the club he goes to wouldn't have to get him in under their cap, presumably?

Sorry, but the rule quoted has nothing to do with the SC - it is merely saying the loaning club will still be financially responsible for fulfilling the terms of the players contract, regardless of who is actually paying that money.

With regards to loans and the salary cap:

Loans and Dual Registration

(a) The temporary transfer of a Player by way of a loan shall be treated as a
permanent transfer. Accordingly:
* (i)  where a Super League Club is the loaning Club, the Player shall cease to be a considered to be a Player of that Club for the purpose of calculating its Aggregate Liability for the duration of the Loan; 

* (ii)  where a Super League Club is the loanee Club, the Player’s full Salary Cap Value at his original Club (for the avoidance of doubt excluding any dispensations that related only to the Original Club) shall count towards the loanee Club’s Aggregate For the avoidance of doubt any agreement reached between the Clubs from and to which a Player is loaned as to who pays the Player’s salary (or part thereof) has no relevance to the treatment of the Player in accordance with this Clause.
(b) The dual registration of a Player shall not be treated as a permanent transfer. Accordingly where a Player registered with a Super League Club is also dual registered to a Championship or League 1 Club, the Player shall continue to be considered a Player of that Super League Club for the purpose of calculating its Aggregate Liability.

Re: Ferres to Roosters falls through. : Fri Jan 01, 2016 4:20 pm  

https://mobile.twitter.com/BrettFerres1 ... 3291586561 So Ferres was at Headingley for the Boxing Day game......

https://mobile.twitter.com/BrettFerres1 ... 3291586561 So Ferres was at Headingley for the Boxing Day game......

Re: Ferres to Roosters falls through. : Fri Jan 01, 2016 4:50 pm  

Maybe he is going to Wakey?

Re: Ferres to Roosters falls through. : Fri Jan 01, 2016 10:39 pm  

He could be heading to Wigan involving a swap.
Heard Leeds tentatively offered Achurch for Ferres .

Re: Ferres to Roosters falls through. : Sat Jan 02, 2016 9:37 am  

Wigan have got more 2nd rows than the rest of SL put together. He'll end up with us if the price is right

Re: Ferres to Roosters falls through. : Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:44 am  

Stuart Pyke reporting Ferres to Leeds...