Re: RD 21 | Leigh Leopards (A) : Sun Aug 06, 2023 5:28 pm  

KaeruJim wrote:

Not a good performance again, and not unexpected really.

We look so disjointed at times.

Thought Oledski, Holroyd, Lisone aside from the sin bin were pretty good and got stuck in.

McDonald always tries hard but the team does nothing to help put him away.

Hooley at the back was good and looked threatening on attack a couple of times.

We need new signings and a good off season. I know Leigh are doing well this year but to get beaten by a team including Leeds rejects again at home is embarrassing.

Beaten by Leeds rejects??.. Have a word with your coaching staff, sounds like the big problem lies there.

Re: RD 21 | Leigh Leopards (A) : Sun Aug 06, 2023 5:34 pm  

Start acting like a big club, Leigh fans. Stop getting uppity when inferior club’s fans make those type of remarks.

Leeds are insignificant to Leigh, you shouldn’t even be on here. Bigger fish to fry.

Re: RD 21 | Leigh Leopards (A) : Sun Aug 06, 2023 5:41 pm  

FlexWheeler wrote:

Start acting like a big club, Leigh fans. Stop getting uppity when inferior club’s fans make those type of remarks.

Leeds are insignificant to Leigh, you shouldn’t even be on here. Bigger fish to fry.

uppity? I think you've just summed yourself up there Flexy.

Re: RD 21 | Leigh Leopards (A) : Sun Aug 06, 2023 5:45 pm  

This season can't end quick enough.

Re: RD 21 | Leigh Leopards (A) : Sun Aug 06, 2023 5:45 pm  

FlexWheeler wrote:

It’s been obvious since after the first 6 weeks this season that it was going nowhere under Smith. How can you go from the upturn last season to regression with a full pre-season and some recruitment? If things get worse the more time and influence someone has, it’s not a good sign.

I tried repeatedly to point this out, only to be met with “but look at Powell and Warrington”. We can now see how utterly stupid,
misguided, and wrong that was.

Look at Peter Smith at Hull 06-07. Same trajectory.

People keep trying to make this into a long drawn out process as well. “It’ll need until 2030 to sort this out, blah blah”.

Just hire a top coach who makes existing players better and makes good recruitment decisions. It’s amazing how quickly things turn and move forward rapidly simply from having a top coach.

If we are talking about sacking the coach (yawn) again, maybe we should hire Harry Potter. It would require a wizard to give the spine players the speed, athleticism and individual skill they have blatantly lacked for the last couple of years and more. Given the talent on the two teamsheets it seemed inevitable they would win. Lam and Ipape have been arguably the best half and hooker in the league this year. We just don't have that kind of threat. Newman is the only player we have with ability to regularly split a defence. Until we have two or three of similar ability on the pitch most weeks we going to lose more than we win. If you want to get outraged and sack the coach every time we lose, fair enough, but you are overlooking the obvious - the playing squad is not good enough. That is what needs to change.

Re: RD 21 | Leigh Leopards (A) : Sun Aug 06, 2023 5:50 pm  

Thought Smith's other comment was interesting saying 4 players should not be on the field, meaning injured or ill.
But he had no choice but to play them, was that a dig at Gary due to lack of recruitment.

Re: RD 21 | Leigh Leopards (A) : Sun Aug 06, 2023 5:53 pm  

Whilst I don’t think Smith is the long term answer, sacking him before the end of the season would be pointless (perhaps like us for the rest of the year?).

The thing that leaves me underwhelmed with him is that at not prolonged point during his tenure have we been able to see what he’s trying to do and align that with how the sport should be played to win regularly. Perhaps this is down to the players he has to utilise, but my worry is that he wouldn’t change style with significantly better players and the Goldens would struggle to win most games playing this style.

I’m still just about on the fence with him, but if he doesn’t change the style of play before the end of the year, I’d be looking elsewhere as I wouldn’t be able to trust him with all the cap we have to spend.

Re: RD 21 | Leigh Leopards (A) : Sun Aug 06, 2023 6:01 pm  

STEVENM1000 wrote:

Thought Smith's other comment was interesting saying 4 players should not be on the field, meaning injured or ill.
But he had no choice but to play them, was that a dig at Gary due to lack of recruitment.

It was illness apparently.

Re: RD 21 | Leigh Leopards (A) : Sun Aug 06, 2023 6:03 pm  

ImTopMan#1 wrote:

Leeds fans singing about being' on our way to Old Trafford' in recent games. Certainly heard it when you played at Stains.

Any chance of letting us know which Old Trafford you mean as you're so poor you've spent most of the season outside the play off spots and your crap football club got relegated last season so they won't be pitching up at Old Trafford either.

Such rapier whit. Well done you, we are all proud of you and we hope this attention fix is enough for now. Come back if your life means you need more and we can engage again.

Re: RD 21 | Leigh Leopards (A) : Sun Aug 06, 2023 6:04 pm  

batleyrhino wrote:

Whilst I don’t think Smith is the long term answer, sacking him before the end of the season would be pointless (perhaps like us for the rest of the year?).

The thing that leaves me underwhelmed with him is that at not prolonged point during his tenure have we been able to see what he’s trying to do and align that with how the sport should be played to win regularly. Perhaps this is down to the players he has to utilise, but my worry is that he wouldn’t change style with significantly better players and the Goldens would struggle to win most games playing this style.

I’m still just about on the fence with him, but if he doesn’t change the style of play before the end of the year, I’d be looking elsewhere as I wouldn’t be able to trust him with all the cap we have to spend.

The problem with that is if there are any recruitment decisions to make a coach who isn't staying on would be making them.