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: Mon Apr 13, 2009 7:56 pm  
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He's very switched on our Bluey. Didn't even know who the team that have overtaken us in the league were playing today.

Still, he has enough on his hands getting his team to win that elusive penalty count.

Whilst I could churlishly point out the hypocrisy of some who slated Smith in his championship season yet support the "like-able" Bluey (aka Leeds Greatest Coach ever - David Bywater) I won't.

No need tp panic yet. The coach can clear this mess up before October.

Maybe the club will sign a threequarter like he fans have been craving. If that threequarter brings with him an offensive game-plan, a better defensive pattern, some better discipline and inspires a bit of aggression and application in his team mates then all will be well. Yes, that's is, a new centre is the answer.


not having a pop here G1

which 3/4 would you like to see us make an attempt for?
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: Mon Apr 13, 2009 7:59 pm  
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not having a pop here G1

which 3/4 would you like to see us make an attempt for?


Michael Shenton please, providing we're going to pay for one.
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: Mon Apr 13, 2009 8:00 pm  
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not having a pop here G1

which 3/4 would you like to see us make an attempt for?
None. None whatsoever. Its' simply not a contributory factor to what is not working at the moment.

The Saints fans consistently post that our squad has more depth than theirs. I think our First 17 can reach and win a GF. The whole group, including and especially the coach, are not performing.

Signings will not make on jot of difference. Ask Martin Gleeson.
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: Mon Apr 13, 2009 8:11 pm  
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Signings will not make on jot of difference. Ask Martin Gleeson.


Gleeson will make a difference at Wigan but it might take more than seven days for it to fully manifest itself and a settled three-quarter line will help also.

Leeds are at least one forward down as well as going into the season with no competent right centre unless the Lee Smith gamble had come off and thus far it hasn't.

Without signings been added to the squad they will continue to struggle on the evidence of the season so far. Not just the Easter fixtures the warning signs have been there all year.
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: Mon Apr 13, 2009 8:13 pm  
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Without signings been added to the squad they will continue to struggle on the evidence of the season so far. Not just the Easter fixtures the warning signs have been there all year.
Which element of today's performance do you think was caused by the lack of a right centre or a 5th prop?
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: Mon Apr 13, 2009 8:13 pm  
So, there we have it then ... All down to a couple of interceptions.

Silly me !

We gifted more interceptions on a plate in one game, than we did in the whole of last season.

It is not just one thing, but there are some very concerning points with how things have gone over the past few weeks.

Everyone gave the team time to adjust to getting back in to the swing of things after the World Cup, hence the slow start to the season. Fair enough.

Everyone hoped the team would be building up to the World Club game, but that came and went.

We were going to give Saints a real game, we were told. We didn't.

We were going to take Bradford to the cleaners. We didn't.

We allowed one of the poorest teams in the league to run all over us and make them look good.

- Toopi has never been adequately replaced. The make, do & mend effort of Ablett is finally coming undone. He is merely a stop-gap and not a solution to the centre problem. At times the lad doesn't know if he is supposed to be a centre or 2nd row.

- Ellis has not been adequately replaced. OK, no-one could predict the Eastwood fiasco, but the minute it was turning sour, we should have been back on the plane to Sydney to see what we could find as a replacement. No-one is telling me that there aren't reasonable players in Australia, who could negotiate a release, who wouldn't want to come to the English champions ?

- Tansey / Scruton etc have not been replaced.

- I heared a little rumour today that one of the causes of strife in the camp is Buderus and the size of his wage packet. I've no doubt that on paper he's a class player, I am yet to see it for myself.

- There is no excuse for being an alledged £130K plus under the cap limit, yet have the team struggling to the bare bones and not have key players replaced.

- Why after years of mediocrity, has no-one addressed our lack of a half-decent tactical kicking game ?

- Our youth / academy set up has gone backwards

- We're dropping off tackles like never before

- We've replaced quick, flowing football that was attractive to watch, with dull drive-up-the-middle one up football that was last seen at Headingley during the dark days of the 80s.

- Saints have decent cover in every position on the field. We do not. Why not ?

- Rather than do the hard graft and the basics right, that has got us so far in the last few years, we have reverted to a gameplan that depends principally on luck and our 'star' players conjouring something up from nothing.

- What happend to our superior fitness and the ability to keep going at the end of games, when we'd knocked the stuffing out of the opposition ?

- Why have we stopped off-loading in the tackle (or when we do, it is so telegraphed that Marconi could pick it up) ?

- If team sprit is so wonderful, why does half the team look like it doesn't want to know ?

There's more, but it is not a knee-jerk reaction to ask why we're losing so poorly and why we look rubbish. We've not been great all season, but most fans have held fire until now.

Salford are not a great side, but at least they do the basics of running, tackling and backing up to a decent standard.
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: Mon Apr 13, 2009 8:16 pm  
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- Ellis has not been adequately replaced. OK, no-one could predict the Eastwood fiasco.

Eastwoods Lawyers?

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: Mon Apr 13, 2009 8:17 pm  
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Which element of today's performance do you think was caused by the lack of a right centre or a 5th prop?


I've been commenting on this all season long and didn't need today's performance to highlight where Leeds are light.

It's all part of the jigsaw and not the only part either.

And something else I've advocated before this season (and been laughed at for saying it) and that's taking a leaf out of Huddersfield's book.
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: Mon Apr 13, 2009 8:29 pm  
Did you see today's performance?

If so, why do you think a new right centre and a 5th prop forward would've made a difference?

What have Huddersfield been doing that would've altered today's result other than perhaps hiring Nathan Brown who looks a very calm assured tactical coach.

Maybe you have a point. The last time we took a leaf out of Huddersfield book we poached a quality coach from them. Is that what you're driving at?
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: Mon Apr 13, 2009 8:31 pm  
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None. None whatsoever. Its' simply not a contributory factor to what is not working at the moment.


Maybe it is? Maybe being able to attack and defend down both sides would make us less predictable? Maybe it would allow us to keep teams on the backfoot?

Maybe having a settled and more experienced outside backs would mean our defence would be a little more solid?

Maybe having another couple of bodies in the pack would make more space for our strike players to shine? Maybe a bit of cover would allow us to rest our international players?

We are clearly light in the pack and maybe we could carry ablett at centre last year but it doesn't look the case this year,
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