: Sun Apr 12, 2009 10:10 am  

LS16_Rhino wrote:

...or the same scenario from an incorrect PTB (which, by the rule book, 99% of them are these days)

Actually a ruling was brought in a couple of years back where you only have to make an attempt at playing it now and the foot doesnt have to touch. Obv if you just roll the ball through without ever moving your feet its an automatic penalty.

: Sun Apr 12, 2009 11:06 am  

Hollywood Harrigan wrote:

Actually a ruling was brought in a couple of years back where you only have to make an attempt at playing it now and the foot doesnt have to touch. Obv if you just roll the ball through without ever moving your feet its an automatic penalty.

How many of them are ignored in a match???

: Sun Apr 12, 2009 11:34 am  

I'm more concerned that on Friday the Ref was telling he Video Ref what to do, rather than asking his advice.

IMO Smith used the 'big screen' to confirm Webb was offside and then told Halibut to declare 'No Try' and then late in the game told Halibut it was a knock on. IMO if a knock on is caught in front by a player from the same side, it's a forward pass, and you cannot rule against that using Video.

Anyway, we lost. Bulls won their cup final.

No more discussions from me re the loss.

: Sun Apr 12, 2009 11:49 am  

Longun wrote:

I'm more concerned that on Friday the Ref was telling he Video Ref what to do, rather than asking his advice.

Were you as concerned at MM when the Vidref was telling the ref on the field what to do? In an instruction (since shown to have been wrong anyway) which changed the outcome of the game. And especially when SL clubs had all been assured that that would never happen? If you are concerned about Mr Smith, you must surely have been incandescent over messrs. Klein & Ganson? Were you?

Were you making any allowance for the fact that M. Alibert's first language is not English, so he may have needed a bit more clarification about what was being asked of him than others would?

Also, just wondering how you gained the impression the ref should have been asking the vidref for "advice", when it was the vidref ti actually make the decision?

Just curious...

: Sun Apr 12, 2009 12:48 pm  

Hollywood Harrigan wrote:

Actually a ruling was brought in a couple of years back where you only have to make an attempt at playing it now and the foot doesnt have to touch. Obv if you just roll the ball through without ever moving your feet its an automatic penalty.

I stand corrected big fella.

: Sun Apr 12, 2009 12:52 pm  

Hollywood Harrigan wrote:

Actually a ruling was brought in a couple of years back where you only have to make an attempt at playing it now and the foot doesnt have to touch. Obv if you just roll the ball through without ever moving your feet its an automatic penalty.

I didn't know that either (or if I did I forgot) - thanks for that - one less chance for me to make a fool of myself in future

: Sun Apr 12, 2009 12:53 pm  

Can't be bothered going through ten pages, but in regard to leeds being robbed, put it down to karma. I'm sure you all remember the cardiff incident.

: Sun Apr 12, 2009 12:54 pm  

Adeybull wrote:

Were you as concerned at MM when the Vidref was telling the ref on the field what to do? In an instruction (since shown to have been wrong anyway) which changed the outcome of the game. And especially when SL clubs had all been assured that that would never happen? If you are concerned about Mr Smith, you must surely have been incandescent over messrs. Klein & Ganson? Were you?

Were you making any allowance for the fact that M. Alibert's first language is not English, so he may have needed a bit more clarification about what was being asked of him than others would?

Also, just wondering how you gained the impression the ref should have been asking the vidref for "advice", when it was the vidref ti actually make the decision?

Just curious...

I'd love to answer all your questions, but I refer you to the last statement in my post....sorry.

Anyway, I don't really take much interest in the weekly rounds until around September, and clearly neither do the Leeds players. MacNamara has done a fine job though, getting his players to peak at Easter

: Sun Apr 12, 2009 12:55 pm  

Adeybull wrote:

Were you as concerned at MM when the Vidref was telling the ref on the field what to do? In an instruction (since shown to have been wrong anyway) which changed the outcome of the game. And especially when SL clubs had all been assured that that would never happen? If you are concerned about Mr Smith, you must surely have been incandescent over messrs. Klein & Ganson? Were you?

Were you making any allowance for the fact that M. Alibert's first language is not English, so he may have needed a bit more clarification about what was being asked of him than others would?

Also, just wondering how you gained the impression the ref should have been asking the vidref for "advice", when it was the vidref ti actually make the decision?

Just curious...

I tell you whats curious, the amount of time you are spending on this forum, it must be 18 months - 2 years since you spent this much time on here!!

Now I aren't Sherlock Holmes but could it be something to do with the fact that the Bulls beat their local rivals for the first time over that period?

Answers on a postcard to:

We won our Cup Final,
Seasons over,
Play Offs,
I doubt it.

TIA

: Sun Apr 12, 2009 1:01 pm  

Longun wrote:

I'd love to answer all your questions, but I refer you to the last statement in my post....sorry.

Anyway, I don't really take much interest in the weekly rounds until around September, and clearly neither do the Leeds players. MacNamara has done a fine job though, getting his players to peak at Easter

I'm sure a long and illustrious career in politics awaits!