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Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:57 am  
Yes, we're in a transition period but that doesn't mean we shouldn't be going for the best manager possible. Having a quality coach actually involved in the transition and laying the foundations for a squad that will hopefully in time compete would be the best option.

If Agar is our man that really shows how far we've slumped and it's going to be a long time to turn it around.
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Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:18 am  
Funny cos when I said 5 months ago that it was Agar's job to lose I was shot down with people saying Agar had made it clear he didnt wsnt the job.

In truth the club believe hes a good coach, hes a throughly decent bloke and he can work with Sinfield which is very important. Having said all that is he the man to take us back where we need to be? No he probably isn't in my opinion.

And as I've said from the start of all this it's unlikely the fan base will ever accept him should he be appointed. Every loss will see plenty of calls for his head but then it was same under McDermott.
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Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:51 am  
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Yes, we're in a transition period but that doesn't mean we shouldn't be going for the best manager possible. Having a quality coach actually involved in the transition and laying the foundations for a squad that will hopefully in time compete would be the best option.

If Agar is our man that really shows how far we've slumped and it's going to be a long time to turn it around.


A quality coach coming in from outside would ideally want to be a) happy with most of the players at his disposal, and failing that, b) given the clout to hire and fire players as he wants. I don't see either of these scenarios being possible for next season, on current time-scales.

Perhaps if we'd secured our safety at a much earlier stage in the season (and it still isn't 100% guaranteed), there would have been more scope for an outside candidate to come in. The playing staff would have proved themselves mostly up to it by finishing higher in the table (a), and there would be more time and wiggle room with contracts and the transfer market (b). Bringing someone in now would shackle them even more than Furner's appointment, given the number of panic signings already made to avoid relegation.

What I would be against is giving Agar the job on the same permanent rolling basis as Brian Mac, or anything beyond 2 years. A one year deal, with performance based clauses for an extension would probably suit us best for the time-being.
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Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:55 am  
Nothing convinces me Agar is or will be goid enough but then again if it all goes t!t$ up again maybe Sinfield will be made culpable & we'll ditch the DOR role or employ someone good enough to do it
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Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Fri Sep 06, 2019 12:21 pm  
The DOR role is here to stay. The days when ALL the coaching and recruitment and retention were the responsibility of the head coach are all but over. Rightly so too. The cap is complex and needs to be managed by someone other than the coach.
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Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Fri Sep 06, 2019 2:40 pm  
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The DOR role is here to stay. The days when ALL the coaching and recruitment and retention were the responsibility of the head coach are all but over. Rightly so too. The cap is complex and needs to be managed by someone other than the coach.

The cap & recruitment was always managed by our CEO with the HC input on who joins Stays & Goes.
All this DOR is a made up role at Leeds so GH could get Sinfield into a job other than Coaching & just as shown by his recent interview pass the buck when recruitment retention & Coaching set up fails miserably.
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Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Fri Sep 06, 2019 2:48 pm  
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The cap & recruitment was always managed by our CEO with the HC input on who joins Stays & Goes.
All this DOR is a made up role at Leeds so GH could get Sinfield into a job other than Coaching & just as shown by his recent interview pass the buck when recruitment retention & Coaching set up fails miserably.



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Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Fri Sep 06, 2019 4:02 pm  
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The cap & recruitment was always managed by our CEO with the HC input on who joins Stays & Goes.
All this DOR is a made up role at Leeds so GH could get Sinfield into a job other than Coaching & just as shown by his recent interview pass the buck when recruitment retention & Coaching set up fails miserably.

That’s not at all the purpose of the DoR role. That role is there to ease Sinfield into the CEO role in a few years time.

Sinfield will steadily take over more areas from Hetherington year by year.

We’ve had DoR roles in the past notably with Powell who had nowhere near the responsibilities that Sinfield does.

So ignore the title, it’s simply a way of allowing Sinfield to learn without the full responsibilities thrust on him too quickly.
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Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Fri Sep 06, 2019 4:40 pm  
Is Agar confirmed? I missed it...seen nothing official yet.
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Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Fri Sep 06, 2019 4:40 pm  
Is Agar confirmed? I missed it...seen nothing official yet.
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