Re: SL RD 18 | Wigan Warriors (H) : Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:15 am  

Marty Grrrrrrrrrr! wrote:

If ever there was a game that showed how desperately we need a 6, 7 and 9 it was tonight.

Thought Merrin was spectacular as usual, proper forward, Big Ava ran well and Cuthbo did ok off the bench. The pack have a right to be disappointed tonight with our poor our halves was. Really poor.

Having said that there was too many errors and too many penalties to win a winnable game.

The priorities have be a new number 9 and 2 halves. You cant bring a new half in and expect him to be able to do the job with Dwyer at 9 it's impossible for any half. I'm sorry.

Is there really any quality halves available at this time of year anyway? I suspect not really.

Really frustrated with that tonight. The effort and endeavour was there for all to see and the game was there to be taken and we didnt get the job done. Just not good enough this team right now.

I thought cuthbertson went ok aswell.

Id be offering Salford a big amount to get Hastings in for this season,
They are short of cash and would surely be open to a transfer fee rather than letting him go for nothing at the end of the season, if he wants an NRL get out clause as long as its a non mid season one then so be it.

Again watching it back Merrin was outstanding and AVA went well, were a half back short of being a decent side IMO

Edited no were a couple of half backs of being a decent side

Re: SL RD 18 | Wigan Warriors (H) : Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:29 am  

I think we are more than a half back short Chris but i take the point that a good 6 would help the team if they get the ball when and how they want it. There is no point signing a Hastings or Maloney and then having them set a play up only for Dwyer to run across the park 15 yards like a headless chicken or put a kick in for himself.

We badly need a 9 to go with a pair of halves really to make us a half decent team.

We will have a lot of cap space available at the end of the season to bring in quality players but it has to be quality because these are key positions in any team.

Re: SL RD 18 | Wigan Warriors (H) : Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:32 am  

Three out of four years near the bottom without a decent halfback. One year with one won the comp. Not the only issue but that speaks volumes.

Re: SL RD 18 | Wigan Warriors (H) : Sat Jun 15, 2019 1:01 am  

Marty Grrrrrrrrrr! wrote:

I think we are more than a half back short Chris but i take the point that a good 6 would help the team if they get the ball when and how they want it. There is no point signing a Hastings or Maloney and then having them set a play up only for Dwyer to run across the park 15 yards like a headless chicken or put a kick in for himself.

We badly need a 9 to go with a pair of halves really to make us a half decent team.

We will have a lot of cap space available at the end of the season to bring in quality players but it has to be quality because these are key positions in any team.

I personally would keep Parcell, I think he’s the best hooker at the club but it looks like he’s gone.

I like Dwyer but only as an impact player, I do think that were only a fe players from being a decent team though, I think We’ve seemn a fair bit of improvement since Furner has gone its not really translated into wins though but I think it will, we seem to have gone back to basics a bit, which I’m fine with the issue is our halves aren’t capable of doing the basics, I would as I say go all out to get hastings in for this season barring that I would give mcclelland a go alongside Myler, as poor as Myler has been we have actually looked much worse without him.

What is frustrating is we actually have 2 of the best centres in the league but they are getting terrible service, Newman IMO is a star in the making but he’s getting poor ball and he’s constantly trying to make something out of nothing, which In fairness he’s doing.

If we don’t get another half back for this season and this may be unpopular I would actually play Tui at 6 as he was signed to be, he has got a great passing game and he won’t be as exposed as at full back, if Walker continues to be injured give Golding a go

Re: SL RD 18 | Wigan Warriors (H) : Sat Jun 15, 2019 1:03 am  

I realise Ive totally contradicted myself in the post above regarding the halfbacks, I blame the Brandy ive just had

Re: SL RD 18 | Wigan Warriors (H) : Sat Jun 15, 2019 1:34 am  

I agree with a lot of what you say Chris. Parcell is a better 9 than Dwyer but hes not doing it and for quota player to be playing 20 mins a week when available its not good enough.

The one thing I disagree is on Tui, who has more ability than people give him credit but he cant defend and therefore cant play 6 and his kicking game is as poor as the rest.

There has been a big improvement in spirit and effort since Furner left which is why tonight has left more frustrated than other performances.

Re: SL RD 18 | Wigan Warriors (H) : Sat Jun 15, 2019 4:17 am  

That was so frustrating its yet again highlighted how desperate we are for HB's.
It's also sickening seeing the lads bust their guts out only for Myler Sutty or Lolohea waste it.
I've also had it with the Agar experiment yes spirit & effort has improved but those are what any pro Team should have irrespective of Coach.
Ferres yet again gets picked cheap penalties & brings nothing else.
Merrin Ava & Newman were my top 3 oh & how Kendall can be classed as a FT Pro Official shows you exactly how poor that part of the sport is at the moment.

Re: SL RD 18 | Wigan Warriors (H) : Sat Jun 15, 2019 5:18 am  

I usually defend Myler but he was absolutely dire tonight, not a Singleton fan either but he was better tonight. Everyone raves about Dwyer but he runs around like a headless chicken far too often, give me Parcell anytime .

Re: SL RD 18 | Wigan Warriors (H) : Sat Jun 15, 2019 5:33 am  

Might we need to replace Parcel to free up a quota spot? If that's what it takes to get a halfback sobeit.

Re: SL RD 18 | Wigan Warriors (H) : Sat Jun 15, 2019 5:59 am  

RHINO-MARK wrote:

That was so frustrating its yet again highlighted how desperate we are for HB's.
It's also sickening seeing the lads bust their guts out only for Myler Sutty or Lolohea waste it.
I've also had it with the Agar experiment yes spirit & effort has improved but those are what any pro Team should have irrespective of Coach.
Ferres yet again gets picked cheap penalties & brings nothing else.
Merrin Ava & Newman were my top 3 oh & how Kendall can be classed as a FT Pro Official shows you exactly how poor that part of the sport is at the moment.

Thought Newman went backwards last night. Not a bad thing as needs to learn, and will do. Definitely top three were. Merrin, Singleton (yes Singleton, best game in a long long time), and Ava.

Also, I don’t want Agar, but give the guy some credit. He has definitely done what was asked of him, and got the team playing together at least and showing some desire. I really couldn’t have seen any other coaching appointment have improved on that with how we were. Now we have that, we need the next step.

At least we got ourselves in good positions in that second half. First half I actually thought for the most part we would never score a try. Defensively for the most part we were strong.