Re: RD 25 | Wigan Warriors (H) : Sat Sep 09, 2023 5:01 pm  

I am not saying Smith should go however the coaching performance at the club should be assessed alongside everything else. As Seth has said Walker and Grix don't fill me with enthusiasm and are they Smiths choice or the club selections. Pre-season was poor and not taken seriously with lots of players played out of position and this rolled into the season.We obviously have had no luck with injuries but this affects all clubs. I would like to see Leeds start pre-season next year with a first choice 1 - 17 and an obvious structure of how we want to play. No tinkering just best players in their positions and developing their role in the team. 6th place should not be the summit of a club of Leeds statues ambition.

Re: RD 25 | Wigan Warriors (H) : Sat Sep 09, 2023 5:01 pm  

Exeter Rhino wrote:

Agree with this. The way this season has gone, Smith will be under serious pressure if we start the next season in the same vein as 2023. Let's say we're well outside the top 6, 10 games in, and we're potentially looking at another season gone.

Can’t see him lasting 10 games with more Ls than Ws after having cap marquee and quota available. Even my patience is pretty thin, although the common denominator for me is GH as far as bad player decisions go,

Re: RD 25 | Wigan Warriors (H) : Sat Sep 09, 2023 5:03 pm  

christopher wrote:

Short kick offs was scrapped after the first game. I think he knows how he wants the team to play but we don’t have the personnel to do it.

This

Re: RD 25 | Wigan Warriors (H) : Sat Sep 09, 2023 5:05 pm  

Sir Gregory ParsloeP wrote:

The club’s mismanagement has led to the embarrassing performance and result today.

From Leeming leaving and others following and none being replaced, injuries and concussions.

But also Smith and GH have recruited and retained many clearly second rate players.

And yet again today we barely played the ball in the Wigan 25. This has happened in many games when we had far more players available and is due to the passive approach of the coach.

IF this was one of the other big clubs like Wigan or Saints, both GH and Smith would be removed due to underperforming.

It urgently needs to happen but won’t.

CEOs in Hetherington position don’t just get ‘removed’, whos going to ‘remove’ him?

It may well be time to start looking at the set up but Hetherington isn’t just going to get sacked, that needs far more managing than say sacking a coach or getter rid of players

Re: RD 25 | Wigan Warriors (H) : Sat Sep 09, 2023 5:15 pm  

Loiner at large wrote:

I am not saying Smith should go however the coaching performance at the club should be assessed alongside everything else. As Seth has said Walker and Grix don't fill me with enthusiasm and are they Smiths choice or the club selections. Pre-season was poor and not taken seriously with lots of players played out of position and this rolled into the season.We obviously have had no luck with injuries but this affects all clubs. I would like to see Leeds start pre-season next year with a first choice 1 - 17 and an obvious structure of how we want to play. No tinkering just best players in their positions and developing their role in the team. 6th place should not be the summit of a club of Leeds statues ambition.

I think RS was frankly over-confident after our Indian summer last year and run to the GF.

The truth is the squad is where it is in the table pretty much on merit: our first grade squad when fit might have make the top six but we really don’t look contenders. To be fair RS does tend to play the specialist player in position when fit, he’s been forced into square pegs and round holes almost all season.

Re: RD 25 | Wigan Warriors (H) : Sat Sep 09, 2023 5:16 pm  

Barrie’s Glass Eye wrote:

Come home Sutty all is forgiven.

Surely it's not that bad? Granted he's better than Martin at centre.

At least the calls for Dwyer to come home seem to have died down

Re: RD 25 | Wigan Warriors (H) : Sat Sep 09, 2023 5:16 pm  

christopher wrote:

CEOs in Hetherington position don’t just get ‘removed’, whos going to ‘remove’ him?

It may well be time to start looking at the set up but Hetherington isn’t just going to get sacked, that needs far more managing than say sacking a coach or getter rid of players

Fan revolt would force his hand but we are a little way off.

Re: RD 25 | Wigan Warriors (H) : Sat Sep 09, 2023 5:17 pm  

KaeruJim wrote:

I think RS was frankly over-confident after our Indian summer last year and run to the GF.

The truth is the squad is where it is in the table pretty much on merit: our first grade squad when fit might have make the top six but we really don’t look contenders. To be fair RS does tend to play the specialist player in position when fit, he’s been forced into square pegs and round holes almost all season.

Agree with this. RS gave the impression that he thought things would carry on going his way, and he squandered the pre-season.

Re: RD 25 | Wigan Warriors (H) : Sat Sep 09, 2023 5:18 pm  

That was pathetic, embarrassing day for the club and only got themselves to blame

Re: RD 25 | Wigan Warriors (H) : Sat Sep 09, 2023 5:23 pm  

mattsrhinos1978 wrote:

That was pathetic, embarrassing day for the club and only got themselves to blame

Watch us lose to Cas final home game…

Bad day today but we will be better next year, we have to be.