Re: SL GF | St Helens (Old Trafford) : Sun Sep 18, 2022 11:51 am  

Jack Burton wrote:

Sezer and Gannon definitely out with concussion

Think Sezer was pretty inevitable from the moment he went down. Massively impressed with Rohan on Gannon. Sounds like technically he could play, but they are not willing to risk his health. Sounds very much like Martin is the only returnee. So be it.

Re: SL GF | St Helens (Old Trafford) : Sun Sep 18, 2022 12:03 pm  

It would be shocking for if knowles and welbsly are allowed to play, especially Welbsly given we have a player out due to concussion protocol after foul play, direct hit to the head. But the MRP and RFL don’t follow their own rules.

Re: SL GF | St Helens (Old Trafford) : Sun Sep 18, 2022 12:31 pm  

I suspect Knowles will be ok, because they are mainly concerned about concussions at the minute.

In any case, let them both play. Lets have both teams as close to full strength as possible, and battle it out for top spot. I think Rohan is putting huge emphasis that it doesn’t matter who is not playing or what the other team are doing, only what we can control.

Let saints bring it on with a full contingent and let the best team win!

Re: Next Weeks team : Sun Sep 18, 2022 12:38 pm  

christopher wrote:

So should Welsby

Don't agree with - it was a great tackle - if we are banning players for tackles like that they game is ruined as a spectacle

Re: Next Weeks team : Sun Sep 18, 2022 12:40 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

Don't agree with - it was a great tackle - if we are banning players for tackles like that they game is ruined as a spectacle

It was a great tackle apart from the fact that he clocked him in the face with his shoulder. If he was six inches lower you'd be right, but you can't ban all headshots "apart from the ones that look great"

Re: SL GF | St Helens (Old Trafford) : Sun Sep 18, 2022 12:42 pm  

This is a game - Leeds should go into with confidence. Saints are beatable it needs a strong ref who will keep an eye on the offside at the PTB - Saints are too quick off the mark.

As Salford showed Saints right side is vulnerable. If Knowles plays then something is seriously wrong with the MRP.

Re: Next Weeks team : Sun Sep 18, 2022 12:44 pm  

Big Jim Slade wrote:

It was a great tackle apart from the fact that he clocked him in the face with his shoulder. If he was six inches lower you'd be right, but you can't ban all headshots "apart from the ones that look great"

I dont agree he has simply flatten him head on - no sure what he supposed to do? Props just run over smaller guys no problem they drive in with their shoulder straight at an opponents head - that's OK?

Re: SL GF | St Helens (Old Trafford) : Sun Sep 18, 2022 12:58 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

This is a game - Leeds should go into with confidence. Saints are beatable it needs a strong ref who will keep an eye on the offside at the PTB - Saints are too quick off the mark.

As Salford showed Saints right side is vulnerable. If Knowles plays then something is seriously wrong with the MRP.

If Saints are off the line a bit quick, then chip over them. We have a coach now who would encourage that kind of play I think, and do it once or twice and they will either take a defender form the line (leaving more from) to sweep behind or give us a second more to get forwards.

We need to play our game on Saturday, not be forced into the one they want to play.

Re: Next Weeks team : Sun Sep 18, 2022 1:00 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

I dont agree he has simply flatten him head on - no sure what he supposed to do? Props just run over smaller guys no problem they drive in with their shoulder straight at an opponents head - that's OK?

For me that's shoulder to head contact either first or simultaneously, clear foul play. It's no different to a swinging arm - most high shots are unintended, but that's really neither here nor there is it? What he's supposed to do is go lower, get the shoulder anywhere but into his head. It's not like it's a new rule.

As for the props carrying the ball argument, I don't know, but it's a completely separate issue.

Re: Next Weeks team : Sun Sep 18, 2022 1:16 pm  

Big Jim Slade wrote:

For me that's shoulder to head contact either first or simultaneously, clear foul play. It's no different to a swinging arm - most high shots are unintended, but that's really neither here nor there is it? What he's supposed to do is go lower, get the shoulder anywhere but into his head. It's not like it's a new rule.

As for the props carrying the ball argument, I don't know, but it's a completely separate issue.

Sorry the picture you grabbed shows shoulder on shoulder contact?