Re: General Chat | Relegation & Who's To Blame? Thread : Sun Aug 25, 2019 2:45 pm  

It went up as no try for contact with the man playing the ball. There was no evidence to overturn that.

Re: General Chat | Relegation & Who's To Blame? Thread : Sun Aug 25, 2019 6:08 pm  

The Eagle wrote:

It went up as no try for contact with the man playing the ball. There was no evidence to overturn that.

Yep. Clearly as both Hicks and Thaler gave no try for that reason there must have been a decision made that that isn’t allowed. Quite why I have no idea.

Re: General Chat | Relegation & Who's To Blame? Thread : Mon Aug 26, 2019 5:38 am  

The Eagle wrote:

It went up as no try for contact with the man playing the ball. There was no evidence to overturn that.

It is a stupid interpretation. He wasn’t obstructing, and that is what it was disallowed for, the interpretation of this been contact. The fact he didn’t even make contact, shown clearly on the replays, just highlights how poor these full time officials are, but doesn’t change the wrong usage of the rules.

Why can they not get back to refereeing to the rule book, instead of what they have rewritten in their heads only, over last few years.

The big change in these officials started the minute they went full time. It was a mistake, and has got worse as they continue to keep trying to justify their existence. All we need is officials to apply the rules of the game.

Re: General Chat | Relegation & Who's To Blame? Thread : Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:23 am  

If referees ref to the rule book you wouldnt have a game as there would be a penalty every single play the ball. They have to manage the game and let it flow as best they can. In the main they do a decent job.

What I dont understand is why does a referee when sending a decision to the video ref because he doesn't know whether or not a try has been scored have to make a guess which then influences the video refs decision? That is wrong to me.

I rarely comment on referees as they give what they give and it's up to the players to deal with it. I also accept that referees are human and just like players and coaches make mistakes. I also refereed for several years so I know the job a little bit but what I dont get is why to the other referees defend clear mistakes? Ian Smith on Twitter said Hicks got the Morgan Knowles no try decision correct. He clearly didnt and made an error to everyone who saw it.

Re: General Chat | Relegation & Who's To Blame? Thread : Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:28 am  

Yes Marty i agree regards the refs going up to the VR and having to give their opinion when they don't have a clue, but their opinion can have a huge baring on the final verdict... this needs looking at for me.

Re: General Chat | Relegation & Who's To Blame? Thread : Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:39 am  

Correct Marty and Biff , just a guessing game from the on field official

Re: General Chat | Relegation & Who's To Blame? Thread : Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:53 am  

Is there any reason why I can’t award a try...

Union have got it spot on.

Re: General Chat | Relegation & Who's To Blame? Thread : Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:01 am  

That's even worse if the vr interprets it as meaning to look at everything in slowmo. To me its the intent - everyone should assume a try unless clear evidence to the contrary. Otherwise you get nitpicking on things that no ref would spot in real time.

Re: General Chat | Relegation & Who's To Blame? Thread : Mon Aug 26, 2019 12:18 pm  

That’s exactly how I read the union interpretation. I think it’s a try, I want to award one, so you need to tell me why I can’t.

Re: General Chat | Relegation & Who's To Blame? Thread : Mon Aug 26, 2019 12:25 pm  

I hate it when a good move for a try is scrubbed because of some microscopic 'loss of control' that can only be seen when slowing right down.

I've no issue with the vr being able to slow down for something like obstruction, but IMO grounding ought to be real time only. The mythical search for perfection is the problem.