Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:57 am  

That may be the case. We're hardly an attractive option right now having fired Furner and any new coach faces at least a year of more rebuilding.

It will be interesting to see how Holbrook goes at the Titans. They're an utter shambles.

Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:08 am  

He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy

Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:27 am  

BrisbaneRhino wrote:

That may be the case. We're hardly an attractive option right now having fired Furner and any new coach faces at least a year of more rebuilding.

It will be interesting to see how Holbrook goes at the Titans. They're an utter shambles.

I think it has to be it's always a risk bringing a new coach. There's too much surgery needed with this team for a unproven coach to have a chance of success.The senior players seem to rate Agar so as I've stated earlier unless someone of proven ability can be rought in I would stick with Agar.Wo would you like Brisbane?

Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:35 am  

Agar has done a decent job imo and unless we have our 1st choice signed up ( whoever that may be) I wouldn't be too disappointed if he did another season. On the whole he has brought the team together and got them playing for each other in a way that we have not seen since McDermott left. We looked a shambles under Lowes/Sinfield and Furner and despite a few poor performances I don't see that under Agar.

Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:00 pm  

Like halfback I'd rather we wait for the right coach than rush at it. Agar's going OK but has a poor roster. One thing he needs to look at is subs. I'd have at least 2 props on the bench every game.

We really need a good start next season to enable whoever the coach is to play some of the kids.

Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:01 pm  

KaeruJim wrote:

I’ve been watching Agar quite closely in media interviews and he just seems to lack that little edge of confidence that the real top coaches have.

He has done a great job as interim IMO and deserves to be kept at the club. I’d even run with the current set-up if we can’t find the right candidate. I think we need someone else to take us back to the top level though.

Herein lies the problem for me. There is no doubting he has done a decent job of steadying the ship, but he just seems to lack that extra confidence or edge, he almost seems scarred by previous coaching roles and is happier in the background. Less pressure.

christopher wrote:

Were not going to be at top level til at least 2021 so if it means Agar for a year till we get rid of some players and find the right man then so be it

I disagree with having a coach merely hold the reigns. If we are looking to build some foundations, then better to get the right coach in now, let him get the style of play he wants ingrained into the players, and to have a hand in recruitment.

KaeruJim wrote:

We clearly need more structure. When the players are busted they need a shape to revert to; at the moment we’re just winging it or giving it to the big lad. Saints attack more like an NRL side; as a whole team with bodies in motion and plenty of live options to take.

See my previous point. Saints play with such precision and intensity they are hard to live with. When they attack, they attack as one rather than just one at a time. They flood forwards at pace and I’m numbers when they are moving the ball, making it hard to read who is the intended receiver. Defences get stretched by this. Great to watch. That’s why we have to go after a coach who can make this brand of rugby our go to style from top to bottom, so young players coming in know where they need to be, rather than just get a caretaker.

Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:04 pm  

Prop-per Rhino's Fan wrote:

Herein lies the problem for me. There is no doubting he has done a decent job of steadying the ship, but he just seems to lack that extra confidence or edge, he almost seems scarred by previous coaching roles and is happier in the background. Less pressure.

I disagree with having a coach merely hold the reigns. If we are looking to build some foundations, then better to get the right coach in now, let him get the style of play he wants ingrained into the players, and to have a hand in recruitment.

See my previous point. Saints play with such precision and intensity they are hard to live with. When they attack, they attack as one rather than just one at a time. They flood forwards at pace and I’m numbers when they are moving the ball, making it hard to read who is the intended receiver. Defences get stretched by this. Great to watch. That’s why we have to go after a coach who can make this brand of rugby our go to style from top to bottom, so young players coming in know where they need to be, rather than just get a caretaker.

That’s all very well but is the right coach available and more importantly does he want to come to the club, that’s what I mean by not rushing the appointment, if the right coach isn’t available for next year, we should go with Agar

Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:08 pm  

The Magic Rat wrote:

Agar has done a decent job imo and unless we have our 1st choice signed up ( whoever that may be) I wouldn't be too disappointed if he did another season. On the whole he has brought the team together and got them playing for each other in a way that we have not seen since McDermott left. We looked a shambles under Lowes/Sinfield and Furner and despite a few poor performances I don't see that under Agar.

I hope we do have a coach lined up providing he's proven although I doubt it as I'm sure rumours of who he his would have surfaced by now.

Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:12 pm  

" cant make a silk purse out of a Sows ear" and this squad is looking more and more like a Sows ear.

Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:31 pm  

christopher wrote:

That’s all very well but is the right coach available and more importantly does he want to come to the club, that’s what I mean by not rushing the appointment, if the right coach isn’t available for next year, we should go with Agar

Sinfield has had ample time to sort out the right Coaching staff if that means Agar stays then Sinfield deserves sacking.
There's no way Agar is better than Flannagan Griffin numerous assistents or Watson who imo would come if we approached him.
Irrespective of tye past 2yrs & the self unflicted Furner farce there'll be plenty of better options than Agar willing to take the job.
Getting a Team to gel & get the basics right with this squad should be a given thats all Agar has done.
Given that the Players didnt like Furner or his approach is purely on them & i hooe a lot of them are shown the door asap.
ST's didnt have to get out of 2nd gear last night to dismantle us then they cruisd through the last 15 minutes this Coach & a alot of this squad are nowhere near good enough.