Re: OUT 2017 | Zak Hardaker - Castleford Tigers : Fri Oct 19, 2018 6:57 pm  

Mark Laurie wrote:

I wonder if you can get “remembering to get a car an MOT” counselling?

He can remember his golf clubs though !

Re: OUT 2017 | Zak Hardaker - Castleford Tigers : Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:21 pm  

I posted this on the Wigan forum: The Biffs Back wrote: I agree 100% JWarriors I would ask all Wigan fans to read my post with an open mind and then make their own conclusions as to whether or not I have a valuable point. I posted the comments made by Lenagan when Zak was initially signed when he stated that there would be no more controversies allowed from him https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-leagu ... lay-drugs/ Is this not a controversy from Zak? IMO Lenagan is more than happy to get rid of players that step out of line when they aren't really a valuable asset on the field anymore,but he clearly has ulterior motives with his choices of who gets the bullet and who doesn't Mossop was hung out to dry when he was the innocent party after an unsavoury incident with Bateman (although in reality his form was poop since his return from the NRL and he also wasn't a playing asset to the club moving forward where as Bateman was a top line player) Mossop's exit was an easy decision to make by Lenagan to get rid and he did Joel Tomkins' "Rectum of Wigan" video was cringe worthy at best,but surely it was not worthy of him being made to move on to Hull KR was it? Although Lenagan clearly realised that it was an ideal opportunity to get rid of Joel's salary from the wage bill as he was clearly past his sell by date and he did Does Lenagan think that RL fans will not scrutinise his decisions and make their own conclusions regarding his motives? Was Mossop actually the guilty party on that fateful day? Was Rectumgate worthy of getting Joel the boot? So why does Zak get his reprieve from his latest controversy? IMO Lenagan would not be so sympathetic regarding Zak's drink driving indiscretion if he had run over a member of his own family (As is a very likely scenario when drivers over the limit take the decision to drive whilst under the influence of alcohol) But the fact that Zak didn't actually run anyone over is obviously deemed OK by Lenagan,as is the fact that he is also the best Full Back in SL and is a valuable asset to Wigan So Rehab it is for Zak and a slap on the wrist until his next indiscretion Honest opinions guys am I right or are you happy with Lenagan's decisions?

I posted this on the Wigan forum: The Biffs Back wrote: I agree 100% JWarriors I would ask all Wigan fans to read my post with an open mind and then make their own conclusions as to whether or not I have a valuable point. I posted the comments made by Lenagan when Zak was initially signed when he stated that there would be no more controversies allowed from him https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-leagu ... lay-drugs/ Is this not a controversy from Zak? IMO Lenagan is more than happy to get rid of players that step out of line when they aren't really a valuable asset on the field anymore,but he clearly has ulterior motives with his choices of who gets the bullet and who doesn't Mossop was hung out to dry when he was the innocent party after an unsavoury incident with Bateman (although in reality his form was poop since his return from the NRL and he also wasn't a playing asset to the club moving forward where as Bateman was a top line player) Mossop's exit was an easy decision to make by Lenagan to get rid and he did Joel Tomkins' "Rectum of Wigan" video was cringe worthy at best,but surely it was not worthy of him being made to move on to Hull KR was it? Although Lenagan clearly realised that it was an ideal opportunity to get rid of Joel's salary from the wage bill as he was clearly past his sell by date and he did Does Lenagan think that RL fans will not scrutinise his decisions and make their own conclusions regarding his motives? Was Mossop actually the guilty party on that fateful day? Was Rectumgate worthy of getting Joel the boot? So why does Zak get his reprieve from his latest controversy? IMO Lenagan would not be so sympathetic regarding Zak's drink driving indiscretion if he had run over a member of his own family (As is a very likely scenario when drivers over the limit take the decision to drive whilst under the influence of alcohol) But the fact that Zak didn't actually run anyone over is obviously deemed OK by Lenagan,as is the fact that he is also the best Full Back in SL and is a valuable asset to Wigan So Rehab it is for Zak and a slap on the wrist until his next indiscretion Honest opinions guys am I right or are you happy with Lenagan's decisions?

Re: OUT 2017 | Zak Hardaker - Castleford Tigers : Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:35 pm  

did you get banned?

Re: OUT 2017 | Zak Hardaker - Castleford Tigers : Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:36 pm  

Homer Simpson wrote:

He can remember his golf clubs though !

true. To be fair to him you do need them for driving.

Re: OUT 2017 | Zak Hardaker - Castleford Tigers : Sat Oct 20, 2018 2:15 pm  

The Biffs Back wrote:

I posted this on the Wigan forum:

Brilliant post and 100% correct. It's disgusting from Wigan. They clearly know with Sam Tomkins going Hardaker is very very much in need assuming he is the player he was. Hardaker will never ever learn whilst clubs like Wigan act in the way they have. Shocking

Re: OUT 2017 | Zak Hardaker - Castleford Tigers : Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:09 pm  

tad rhino wrote:

did you get banned?

Nah i'm still here Tad
Although I didn't think it was anywhere close to be classed as trolling,IMO it was just an honest opinion
One of Wigan's mods posted after me and has the self same opinions with regards to Lenegan

Re: OUT 2017 | Zak Hardaker - Castleford Tigers : Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:18 pm  

you never needed to troll to get banned on there, just post something they don't like!

Re: OUT 2017 | Zak Hardaker - Castleford Tigers : Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:46 pm  

Trebor1 wrote:

Hardaker will never ever learn

I'm actually concerned about Zak's mental state as he can't stop having these indiscretions,and irrespective of which club environment he is in.

After each indiscretion Zak always trots out the "I've finally learnt my lesson and I'm now gonna sort my self out" excuse,It's almost like that he feels Invincible and can do whatever he wants whilst believing that he'll always have another club that will take him on after he stuff's up.

What happens to Zak when he finally runs out of chances and clubs willing to pay his big salary?

If he doesn't use this rehab and to also seek further medical help regarding his mental state then sadly I fear another Terry Newton scenario could be just around the corner for him

Let's hope not

Re: OUT 2017 | Zak Hardaker - Castleford Tigers : Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:19 pm  

Leeds gave Zak many more chances than is commonly known so we can hardly complain at Wigan giving him another chance. Unfortunately for them it will be thrown back in their faces at some point.

Re: OUT 2017 | Zak Hardaker - Castleford Tigers : Sun Oct 21, 2018 11:22 am  

Marty Grrrrrrrrrr! wrote:

Leeds gave Zak many more chances than is commonly known so we can hardly complain at Wigan giving him another chance. Unfortunately for them it will be thrown back in their faces at some point.

That is correct - Leeds bent over backwards to provide Zac with appropriate support - shame the player didn't appreciate the help that was offered