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Re: Rat Boy flagging off Rhino's fans : Sun Aug 28, 2011 10:47 am  
I reckon he must have deserved Bailey's late dropped shoulder into his back after play had ended for half time as well. After all, Bailey wouldn't have done that if Sam didn't deserve it, and although I can't think of a justification right now, there must be one surely. I'll leave it to you lot to provide an appropriate excuse.
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Re: Rat Boy flagging off Rhino's fans : Sun Aug 28, 2011 10:50 am  
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I remember Leeds player Gareth Stephens flicking them towards his own fans ...


Hardly the crime of the century is it?
Well before the famous Eric Cantonna "one foot in the crowd" incident,
I remember 1968, Billy Boston jumped over the wall at Knotty Ash, Liverpool Citys ground and thumped a spectatator who was giving him racial abuse, he returned to the field and carried on playing, and no one said a thing.
Times are different now, spectators think they can say, and, do as they wish, with out any consequence to themselves, look at some of the comments on (all boards) here for evidence.
Rugby players are people with emotions, like all human being's they will react if pushed to far, remember John Prescott.
Personally, I think Sam does pretty well to control his reactions in dealing with the constant barrage of some pretty vile abuse from a minority of spectators at all clubs. I'll come to your place of work and call your mother a whore, etc, let's see how short your fuze is ?
As the best talent in SL at the moment, he's a target, that has been and always will be the case for all of the games great's, but, be honest, in the emotion and adrenallin fuelled atmosphere of a CC sticking two fingers up isn't that big a deal, is it ?
If the RL decide its worthy of action, then he will have to suffer the consequences, and rightly so, but until then, get of his back and have a good look at yourselves before verbally attacking someone (not just ST) that you don't know personally.
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Re: Rat Boy flagging off Rhino's fans : Sun Aug 28, 2011 10:57 am  
Who the hell is Tompkins?
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Re: Rat Boy flagging off Rhino's fans : Sun Aug 28, 2011 11:01 am  
Lawrie L wrote:
Who the hell is Tompkins?


Another quality post from Laurence.
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Re: Rat Boy flagging off Rhino's fans : Sun Aug 28, 2011 11:12 am  
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Another quality post from Laurence.

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Re: Rat Boy flagging off Rhino's fans : Sun Aug 28, 2011 11:24 am  
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Who the hell is Tompkins?

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I think we've done that one to death, along with Maguire/McGuire. Let's allow people some spelling, typo, and grammatical errors, to ensure the thread is not derailed, shall we?
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Re: Rat Boy flagging off Rhino's fans : Sun Aug 28, 2011 11:54 am  
Tomkins isn't some player that we just decided to boo. He's got hisself a reputation for cheating and pushing the bounds of gamesmanship to breaking point long before the exiles game. He also has a tendency to go missing in internationals.

He's also a pro sportsman, and gets paid to act in a certain way whether or not crowds like him.

All in all, he's a nasty little f****r, an arrogant chav who despite his talent brings the game into disrepute, and needs a good kick up the booty from someone at Wigan to get him acting his age.
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Re: Rat Boy flagging off Rhino's fans : Sun Aug 28, 2011 11:57 am  
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He's also a pro sportsman, and gets paid to act in a certain way whether or not crowds like him.

Translation: "I can act like a yob but Tomkins has to be perfect, waah waah waah!"
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Re: Rat Boy flagging off Rhino's fans : Sun Aug 28, 2011 12:12 pm  
loinertillidie wrote:
Sorry Admiral I can't see your point. I've said he's immature and needs guidance. I haven't tried to excuse his antics.

I just feel that people are getting on his back a little too much. He hasn't killed or raped anyone. He's guilty of silliness and hotheadedness yes. But surely there is a limit to how far you can villify someone for that?


Very reasoned post.

I'm not going to defend his antics yesterdy in flicking the v at the Leeds end, it was stupid and not needed. If the RFL ban him, within reason, I wouldn't object too much.

Someone at Wigan needs to talk to him though, I'm sick of talking about Sam about non-playing matters. If he's targeted by other teams/players then there are ways to deal with that frustration without acting so petulantly.
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Re: Rat Boy flagging off Rhino's fans : Sun Aug 28, 2011 12:34 pm  
loinertillidie wrote:
Sorry Admiral I can't see your point. I've said he's immature and needs guidance. I haven't tried to excuse his antics.

I just feel that people are getting on his back a little too much. He hasn't killed or raped anyone. He's guilty of silliness and hotheadedness yes. But surely there is a limit to how far you can villify someone for that?


I think we basically agree on the same things, but are coming at it from different angles.

The thing that really wound me up yesterday wasn't the flicking of the Vs (I couldn't see them from where I was sat and only found out via text towards half time), but instead was his treatment of the touch judge.

The level of respect for match officials from the players, is what sets this sport apart from some of the slime out there.

What was done by Tompkins after the Ryan Hall try was nothing short of disgraceful and if the match officials at the time are not prepared to deal with the issue, then the RFL should be taking a long, hard look at how he acted. If his club can't / won't deal with him, then maybe the authorities should.

What he did far in excess of the usual level of backchat that is also creeping in to the game.

If Samuel wants to behave in that way again, then perhaps rugby league is not the sport of him and maybe he'd be better at home with the round ball game that seems to tolerate that sort of thing far more acceptably ?
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