Re: Ferres to Roosters falls through. : Fri Dec 04, 2015 2:55 pm  

^^^^

pretty much in a nutshell. I always hoped we was never in for Hock because of the fact it was clear he is a bad egg and wouldn't be changing his ways.Is Ferres generally a problem? who knows but aside from this big cock up (pardon the pun ) he may well be a solid hard working player, which is what he has come across to me as aside from this.The only side who had to take the morale high ground were Hudds which they have.

Re: Ferres to Roosters falls through. : Fri Dec 04, 2015 3:35 pm  

I'd have Ferres, very good player.

All this stuff about what's gone on privately between people who were obviously very close to each other is of no relevence other than he can't keep working with Huby. He's commited no crime, he's done nothing to disgrace the game, it's a private matter between work colleagues and their families. It doesn't make him a bad person or suggest he'll start after anyone elses wife.

FWIW plenty of sporting legends have done worse and more often. Half the kids in Manchester could call Ryan Giggs "Daddy" if they wanted to.

Re: Ferres to Roosters falls through. : Fri Dec 04, 2015 4:47 pm  

Couldn't disagree more. I think it says a lot about a man that he's prepared to do that to a team mate, it suggests he's neither a team player nor a trustworthy man. Would you invite someone into the dressing room who'd stolen from other players? I doubt it. Having a player you can't trust is terrible for morale.

People are talking about private lives and the team like they're mutually exclusive, they're not generally and in this case there is a very direct relation. He broke the code, he betrayed all of his team mates by doing that and to my mind that has incredible relevance to whether you'd want him as part of your team.

Re: Ferres to Roosters falls through. : Fri Dec 04, 2015 5:26 pm  

If team morale/trust is the one big question then their's a simple solution to whether we should sign him or not.......ask the squad their feelings about it. If they aren't bothered by what he did then go for it, if they say no thanks we don't want him in the squad then don't.

For all the opinions on here about what he did and his trustworthiness, we aren't the ones who have to share the pitch and dressing room with him.

Re: Ferres to Roosters falls through. : Fri Dec 04, 2015 5:36 pm  

DHM wrote:

I'd have Ferres, very good player.

All this stuff about what's gone on privately between people who were obviously very close to each other is of no relevence other than he can't keep working with Huby. He's commited no crime, he's done nothing to disgrace the game, it's a private matter between work colleagues and their families. It doesn't make him a bad person or suggest he'll start after anyone elses wife.

FWIW plenty of sporting legends have done worse and more often. Half the kids in Manchester could call Ryan Giggs "Daddy" if they wanted to.

I agree, except for the fact that in this case his best mate and the "victim" for want of a better word was a team mate.
If he weren't a team mate then I agree the decision would be a lot easier.

But in general I agree, the club just has to satisfy itself regarding his character which has, at the least, been called into question.

Re: Ferres to Roosters falls through. : Fri Dec 04, 2015 5:37 pm  

[quote="Big Jim Slade]Would you invite someone into the dressing room who'd stolen from other players? [/quote]

No. But he hasn't.

Look, people are complicated, their private lives are complicated and relationships are too. What went on between 3 people is their business and "blame" in these situations is not something that is easily apportioned.
The simple fact is two guys who were very close friends now can't work together because of some personal issues. Ferres has been a solid part of that Hudds team for years and has brought a professional attitude to the England side when he's been included. What's gone on between him, his former best mate and his wife would not bother me in the slightest if I were a Leeds player.
Obviously it would bother you.

Re: Ferres to Roosters falls through. : Fri Dec 04, 2015 6:49 pm  

I would be disgusted if my team (or any team) signed him. The same applies to Salford and Carney. Every team has players that have done regrettable things but that is one line you DO NOT cross. Leeds' team morale would decrease significantly if you signed him. Send him to Leigh

Re: Ferres to Roosters falls through. : Fri Dec 04, 2015 7:05 pm  

Cherry_Warrior wrote:

I would be disgusted if my team (or any team) signed him. The same applies to Salford and Carney. Every team has players that have done regrettable things but that is one line you DO NOT cross. Leeds' team morale would decrease significantly if you signed him. Send him to Leigh

Do you think that all of the professional RL clubs worldwide will share your views and refrain from signing a very talented International player for making one grave error?
I certainly do not condone his actions but I'm sure that he has also been through a traumatic time in dealing with what has happened and in being so weak as to betray his best friend in this way, although there is certainly more to the story than what has been reported in the media

Everyone deserves a second chance in life and Ferres certainly deserves the chance to move on with his career and I'm sure that he will wherever he eventually ends up

Re: Ferres to Roosters falls through. : Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:18 pm  

Would you invite someone into the dressing room who had stolen from the players?
Leeds did!!

Re: Ferres to Roosters falls through. : Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:53 pm  

Biff Tannen wrote:

if Ferres slept with his best mates mrs and his best mate didn't happen to play in the same team as him he would still be a Huddersfield player and apart from people saying what a prat there wouldn't be much else said.

Given that he did sleep with his team mates Mrs and that's EXACTLY what makes it such an issue, I'm not sure of the relevance of the point you're making here.

It wouldn't sit well with me if we signed him, I never really liked him as a character prior to this. But then I'm not the one taking to the field with him.