Re: Am I missing something? : Fri May 10, 2024 6:52 am  

As the actual figure is more like 40% higher, I could equally say "almost" 30%. If you're going to be stats police, be more mindful of your own biases in presenting figures?

Re: Am I missing something? : Fri May 10, 2024 9:19 am  

Having said the above, Bentley does have a better appearance ratio on these numbers which is fair enough. However his combination of suspensions, dismissals, injuries over the time he's been with us hardly represents good value for money does it? He's also too small. Fus is a better player than Bentley - and when we re-signed Fus we had less depth at wing, compared to lots of depth in the back row when we re-signed Bentley.

You could make a case that neither player should have been retained, although hindsight is a wonderful thing.

Re: Am I missing something? : Fri May 10, 2024 2:43 pm  

Touche. A bit, although I was closer than you! I too wouldn't have re-signed Bentley. We seem to end up with too many forwards with no go forward, either because they're too small or because they just stop when they get tackled. After McDonnell's performances last year I saw little point in keeping Bentley, and even less in keeping Donaldson. Far better to have gone for a single bigger and more dynamic forward than keep those two IMO.

Re: Am I missing something? : Fri May 10, 2024 3:04 pm  

Resigning Fusitua and Bentley were both stupid decisions, was obvious at the time, how anyone thought otherwise astounds me

Re: Am I missing something? : Fri May 10, 2024 3:31 pm  

Well, looks like one of those two is going, and I wouldn't expect Bentley to get renewed again either next year unless he really pulls various fingers out.

Hear your concerns about development Matts but I remain pretty confident about some of our juniors coming through over the next few years. There are some in first grade now who'll be looking over their shoulders soon.

Re: Am I missing something? : Fri May 10, 2024 5:06 pm  

MrPotatoHead wrote:

We are currently in 7th, two points off top spot after ten rounds. Our performances have been far from perfect, but we are clearly very competitive in what has been the most competitive season ever. If that's our position now, imagine what it could be in a few weeks if we got some wins and the fans stopped shouting for the coaches/teams/CEOs head every time a player makes an error.

Yes you are.

You look, but you do not see.

Re: Am I missing something? : Fri May 10, 2024 5:22 pm  

When you’re at school, and in exams teachers always want and require to see the working out of math equations, so they can verify that logic is correct and that the method is a repeatable process that can be used to reliably solve other equations.

Leeds can solve the odd difficult equation, sometimes. But there’s no working out, no method, it’s not a reliable repeatable process.

The likes of Saints and Wigan have reliable, effective, repeatable methods that solve equations.

Leeds don’t.

Re: Am I missing something? : Fri May 10, 2024 6:26 pm  

FlexWheeler wrote:

When you’re at school, and in exams teachers always want and require to see the working out of math equations, so they can verify that logic is correct and that the method is a repeatable process that can be used to reliably solve other equations.

Leeds can solve the odd difficult equation, sometimes. But there’s no working out, no method, it’s not a reliable repeatable process.

The likes of Saints and Wigan have reliable, effective, repeatable methods that solve equations.

Leeds don’t.

MathS and bodybuilding??

Re: Am I missing something? : Sat May 11, 2024 7:51 am  

KaeruJim wrote:

Well, looks like one of those two is going, and I wouldn't expect Bentley to get renewed again either next year unless he really pulls various fingers out.

Hear your concerns about development Matts but I remain pretty confident about some of our juniors coming through over the next few years. There are some in first grade now who'll be looking over their shoulders soon.

Im absolutely sure they will jim, they're too good not to have a few come through, my concerns about development arnt that all these lads are going to end up in league 1 or NCL, i just dont look at becoming a leeds first team player as the ceiling or confirmation of being developed well... But, as not to derail the thread.. on pure talent you wont find anyone as excited or confident in the young players we have in the club as me.

On Fusitua and Bentley, agreed, a year too late with Fusitua, but seems guaranteed he'l be gone for next year, but didnt Bentley sign a new 2 year, not sure, but he could be at the club a while yet.

Re: Am I missing something? : Sat May 11, 2024 8:11 am  

FlexWheeler wrote:

When you’re at school, and in exams teachers always want and require to see the working out of math equations, so they can verify that logic is correct and that the method is a repeatable process that can be used to reliably solve other equations.

Leeds can solve the odd difficult equation, sometimes. But there’s no working out, no method, it’s not a reliable repeatable process.

The likes of Saints and Wigan have reliable, effective, repeatable methods that solve equations.

Leeds don’t.

I’ve just finished a book about players from the great 80’s team at Liverpool. There are themes running right through the book pretty similar to what you quote above. There was an embedded process that transcended managers and coaching staff. A style of play was adhered to by everybody, and without fail every player knew their role and specific job. It gave players confidence, and was ultimately a huge help to some of the less naturally gifted one’s. The majority of contributors are intentionally less well known, the likes of David Johnson, Michael Robinson and Nigel Spackman. They all without fail say how hard they trained for success, harder than anywhere else they played. Compare and contrast to what appears to have happened at Headingley in recent times, and it may give you an indication where the bigger problems lay. Some other factors the contributors quote are a great team spirit but also a will to win unlike any other club, maybe another couple of things we’ve lacked in recent times. You could actually say our club and players embody the polar opposite to all the key traits above. I can’t stand scousers, so didn’t read this book through rose tinted spectacles. I just found the book an interesting insight into prolonged success at the top level.