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Re: 2023 | Injuries & Suspension : Tue May 30, 2023 2:36 pm  
I'd have Martin in the centre Tetevano starting and tindal out
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Re: 2023 | Injuries & Suspension : Tue May 30, 2023 2:57 pm  
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I think he's cleared the protocol but is still doing his exams so probably won't feature this week.


Real chance to prove he’s ready even if he misses this week there’ll be a 2/3 week overlap with Austin and sezers injuries.
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Re: 2023 | Injuries & Suspension : Tue May 30, 2023 4:26 pm  
I can't see Martin being moved out of the centres, given that he's been playing there and we have now lost Newman.
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Re: 2023 | Injuries & Suspension : Tue May 30, 2023 5:58 pm  
Finally we win an appeal
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Re: 2023 | Injuries & Suspension : Tue May 30, 2023 6:01 pm  
Great news would have been a big loss. Can we have the 2 points as well for a clearly fabricated decision to send him off.
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Re: 2023 | Injuries & Suspension : Tue May 30, 2023 6:12 pm  
Great news
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Re: 2023 | Injuries & Suspension : Tue May 30, 2023 6:19 pm  
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Finally we win an appeal


From the chair of the Operational Rules Tribunal. "We accept entirely that the touch judge was genuinely certain that at the time he saw a punch. However, he was not able to point out the punch on the footage. We cannot rule out the fact that he may have been genuinely mistaken and therefore cannot be satisfied to the appropriate standard that a punch was thrown and we allow the appeal".

An absolute nonsense, garbage statement. At the time, maybe. But the MRP doubled down and banned him further based entirely on the TJ's "certainty". He was certain he saw something that didn't actually happen. How many other times has an official been "certain" of something? As I've said earlier, the ramifications for the wider game should be huge.
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Re: 2023 | Injuries & Suspension : Tue May 30, 2023 6:26 pm  
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From the chair of the Operational Rules Tribunal. "We accept entirely that the touch judge was genuinely certain that at the time he saw a punch. However, he was not able to point out the punch on the footage. We cannot rule out the fact that he may have been genuinely mistaken and therefore cannot be satisfied to the appropriate standard that a punch was thrown and we allow the appeal".

An absolute nonsense, garbage statement. At the time, maybe. But the MRP doubled down and banned him further based entirely on the TJ's "certainty". He was certain he saw something that didn't actually happen. How many other times has an official been "certain" of something? As I've said earlier, the ramifications for the wider game should be huge.



Exactly. Heat of the moment human error is acceptable. But surely the idea of the MRP is they review the footage before handing out the ban, and if they’d have done that properly there wouldn’t have been a ban. Just makes them look daft.
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Re: 2023 | Injuries & Suspension : Tue May 30, 2023 6:42 pm  
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Great news would have been a big loss. Can we have the 2 points as well for a clearly fabricated decision to send him off.
Sound like a Bulls fan after magic weekend in Cardiff :lol: :lol:
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Re: 2023 | Injuries & Suspension : Tue May 30, 2023 6:47 pm  
James McDonnell of Leeds Rhinos has successfully appealed against a Grade D charge of punching in last Friday’s Betfred Super League fixture against St Helens.

McDonnell had been charged by the Match Review Panel on the basis of evidence from the match officials.

HHJ Sarah Wright, who chaired the Operational Rules Tribunal, explained the decision as below:

“We directed ourselves in accordance with the appropriate burden and standard of proof namely that the Compliance Manager bears the burden of proof and has to establish that the misconduct has occurred to the reasonable satisfaction of the tribunal bearing in mind the seriousness of the allegation. The standard of proof is greater than a mere balance of probability but less than proof beyond a reasonable doubt.

“We reviewed footage including a substantial amount of footage that had not been broadcast and footage which had not been seen by the Match Review Panel.

“The player together with Matt Cook [Leeds Rhinos General Manager] took us through a detailed analysis of the footage. It showed beyond doubt that Jonny Lomax was injured and bleeding heavily before the incident involving James McDonnell.

“No punch can be seen on the footage, and it was conceded by the RFL Compliance Manager on behalf of the Match Review Panel that the footage was inconclusive. We were able to view the incident from a number of angles and did not see a punch thrown. We accept entirely that the touch judge was genuinely certain that at the time he saw a punch. However, he was not able to point out the punch on the footage. We cannot rule out the fact that he may have been genuinely mistaken and therefore cannot be satisfied to the appropriate standard that a punch was thrown and we allow the appeal.”
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